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Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey

Rossa Forbes

A mother's quantum quest for healing, asking big questions and getting surprising anwers.

 

Chris's journey becomes his mother's journey when she starts to investigate why he is not getting better, and why, after two years in a day program he is still an enigma to the doctors. The journey takes some unusual detours into modalities of healing and thought that are not part of what is considered the proper medical treatment for schizophrenia today. To help heal her son, she first must learn that his condition is not a pathological disease. Part coming-of-age story, part do-it-yourself manual, Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia shows where mental health treatment is headed at the dawn of the 21st century.

 
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Talking to God and all

The morning did not get off to a good start.  Chris was late for our appointment with Doctor Jones.  I waited outside the building for twenty minutes; by the time we got inside, our scheduled time was half over.  

My heart was pounding as I cleared my throat and began to relate my concerns, which centered on the decline in Chris’s grades over the last year—and his personality. I told the doctor I thought Chris was becoming disorganized and had unrealistic ideas about his own abilities. I went through the Ophélie episode, but omitted mention of the turd incident, reasoning that Dr. Jones could compare notes with Dr. Robert on that one. I learned later from Dr. Robert that Dr. Jones had never contacted him as Ian and I had requested. When Chris and I showed up that day, Dr. Jones had no information about the nature of our visit and what was going on with Chris other than the picture I painted.

As I chattered on, I realized that I must have seemed like an overbearing and overanxious mother.  Surely he’d heard all this before: A talented kid flounders during his first year at university, to the disbelief of his doting parents. After hearing me out, Dr. Jones swiveled in his chair, turning his back to me, and focused his attention on Chris to find out from him why he was causing me such concern.

Chris launched into a charm offensive. His face lit up, he was relaxed, he smiled his old self-deprecating smile.

“He’s got good teeth,” I found myself thinking. "Never needed braces, never had a cavity."

The way Chris told it, he had been too busy having fun the previous year to bother with his studies; he was distracted by parties and debates and co-ed rugby. All that was behind him now, he said; this year, though, he was determined to do well.

At that point, I knew I had failed to resolve the issue in the way that Dr. Robert had advised.  Despite the fact that my being there surely signaled to Dr. Jones that something was wrong, I did not state categorically that Chris was giving his family concern that he was mentally ill. As his mother, I didn't want to "rat" on him to a doctor. To me, it was disloyal to think of my own son as "crazy."

Based on Chris’s bravura performance, how could Dr. Jones see what I was seeing? If Dr. Jones did think something was amiss, as a trained professional, his face gave no hint of this.

I pressed him to start seeing Chris on a weekly basis. Dr. Jones swiveled back to Chris to ask if that was okay.

Chris wasn’t so sure this was a good idea. “Maybe I could see you again in January,” he said.

We left the office with an appointment for Chris to return in a month. I was acutely aware that I had fumbled the ball and let down the team. My own fears had stood in the way of getting Chris the help he needed.

The consequences of my being me were soon to follow.

Ian and I heard little from Chris after I left him on the pavement outside Dr. Jones's office building. He rarely called us, nor did he write to us the way he used to.

We called regularly to find out if he was on track with his work and on one occasion asked  if he had seen Dr. Jones. He had seen him once.

“You, know, it’s nice to talk with Dr. Jones, and I think he enjoys talking to me, but I don’t think he really needs to see me.”

 His answer sounded to me like Chris thought he and Dr. Jones were on the same level intellectually. This was the grandiosity that I had observed with Chris's wanting to skip ahead on his math course and with his aborted driving lesson.

Even though during this period Chris wasn't writing to his parents, he was writing cheerful, upbeat letters to his brothers. If he had issues with his Ian and I, we took this as a perhaps positive sign that he was trying to become independent; our flagging hope was that that’s all it was.

Christmas was approaching fast. Chris was supposed to let us know when he was coming home and what his flight arrangements were. He had a ticket to return to Geneva on December 17, which could be moved forward depending on when he finished exams.

My birthday, November 4, passed with no word from Chris. He left a message a day or two later on my answering machine at work. He must not have wanted to talk to me directly, so he left the call at 11 p.m. Toronto time, 5 a.m. our time. His voice sounded hollow and cold and vague—the shortest message ever. So happy birthday, I guess.” Click. 

I called him a couple of days later.

“Chris, hi, what’s up?”

“Oh, not much. Talking to God and all.” He laughed dismissively.

I told Chris that Ian had gone ahead and rebooked his ticket. His new flight out of Toronto was on December 13. Through our own research, we found out that most first year exams were over in early December so that left him a comfortable margin of time in case he had a late exam.

 

I  lectured him that taking charge of flight arrangements is something someone his age should be able to do himself and we resented having to do it.

Chris didn't immediately respond to my lecture. He just breathed into the phone. Breathing rather than talking was becoming more common each time I spoke with him.

Chris’s Aunt Jane, my older sister, lives near Toronto.  She later told me she had been having trouble getting hold of Chris during this period, but that he eventually called her back one night after eleven o’clock. He told her he’d been getting together daily with a Singaporean friend to pray. I knew that Chris was attending the college chapel services, but the intense devotion of the daily prayer sessions was unsettling to me.  Excessive religiosity to me is a sign of mental instability.

A few years later, after I took up the practice of yoga, I  grasped what I actually already knew at this time but hadn't associated with what Chris was going through -- that religious ecstasy also involves trance-like states and hallucinations. Mystics frequently experience this state which Eastern mystics refer to as kundalini. Kundalini is associated with latent sexual power and is represented symbolically by a sleeping serpent coiled around the base of the human spine. This energy is an evolutionary and consciousness raising life force which goes under many names. Prana, chi, ego or the Holy Spirit are just a few synonyms for this cosmic energy. Religious mysticism is also associated with alchemy. Alchemists were also aware of this life force and had many names for it, according to Carl Jung. The pursuit of alchemy was most notable because of the alchemists' desire to turn base metals into gold, but alchemists were also interested in healing disease and prolonging life and in discovering how God's will is made manifest in man. Chris's desire to study chemistry in order to understand the essence of matter, was indeed, a spiritual point of view.

The pineal gland buried deep in our brain has an ancient mystic association with kundalini and the "third eye" or brow chakra (see Chapter XX). It's a small, pine cone shaped endocrine gland that functions as a messenger circuit that interprets images seen through the retina. Another of its functions is to secrete melatonin which helps regulate our circadian rhythms and our ability to distinguish night from day. When the kundalini is aroused suddenly and violently, the energy is said to leave the body quickly through the brow chakra. This is a plausible explanation for what had happened to Chris when he got a stabbing pain in the area of his brow when our plane landed.

Our Western culture today more and more embraces these spiritual beliefs, as evidenced by the number of people who meditate and practice yoga, but over the course of Chris's treatment I soon learned that this life affirming view of so-called mental illness has not filtered down to the medical community. Medicine may have forgotten that the symbol of its profession, a serpent coiled around a wooden staff, has a similar meaning to kundalini. The snake represents the dual nature of healing (snake venom is both poison and antidote); the snake is also a symbol of renewal because it sheds its skin and is transformed.

The kundalini experience cannot be rushed and every effort must be taken to ensure that the person undergoing this mentally and spiritually wrenching process is allowed to heal in a gentle, supportive way.  Had I known about this link between religious ecstasy, kundalini and schizophrenia I would have viewed Chris's problems in a more positive light and I feel that Chris and all of our family would not have suffered to the same extent through the negative medical model of schizophrenia that we were soon to encounter.

Unfortunately, the medicalized view of mystic states has so permeated our society that even our clergy sees mental illness through the lens of disease.

During this period of our lives, at the time that Chris was praying on a daily basis and looking and acting more and more like an ancient prophet, my consciousness was not raised. I was terribly frightened and not at all enlightened.

The events soon unfolded for us as they usually do in schizophrenia. There is an acute crisis event followed by hospitalization, and almost nowhere to turn for real help.

 

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Rossa Forbes wrote 131 days ago

Thanks so much for sharing your story. There is lots of hope, and I try to share the hope as best I can. I am still editing the book, and have not written a final chapter, but I wonder if there ever is a final chapter in an evolving life? If you are interested, I have a blog that you can take a look at. I try to stay upbeat and positive. Lately I've been doing more posting of other people's materials.
http://holisticschizophrenia.blogspot.com is my blog.
You might also want to check out the Mad in America site www.madinamerica.com which is a lively forum of the latest thinking in mental illness, psychiatry and science. An important thing to help anyone is to try to understand their world in order to establish good communication. This takes an open mind and lots of reading from a wide variety of sources. I began to pay attention to what recovered people said worked for them. They are the best experts. So,yes, there's lots of hope for your son. He sounds like my son. My son is doing well now, and after several years is beginning to talk about going back to college. We still do not rush him. All in good time. I'm so glad you reached out. Please keep in touch!
Best regards,
Rossa

jerib17230 wrote 131 days ago

At last! Some help for another mother and son...Thank you, thank you...After reading for two hours, I'm now on chapter 11. I find many similarities between your story and our current situation. You are blessed that your son was not over 21 when the symptoms began. We were unable to see a psychologist without our son's permission which he never gave. As a result, our son lives 400 miles away in an apartment we rent for him. Our bright son was in college for aeronautics when things began to fall apart. He was very secretive and was homeless without us even knowing it! We thought he was in school, but he wasn't. Finally, after not hearing from him for several days, I drove to the small college town located near the forest and literally waited on the street for him to meet with me. At that time, he was willing to read text messages from me and met me there. Now, he refuses to keep in regular contact. This of course, makes my husband and me very sad. He refuses to see a doctor--he's in fear of being medicated. Your book gives me so much hope. I will continue to read to the end and hopefully will find answers for our predicament. Once I get through this period of anguish and my son is healthy again, I will be happy to help you get the word out to others anyway I can. I have a Masters degree in Education, and a Bachelors in Business Mgmt. If I can assist other parents experiencing this pain, I will be honored to do so. But, I need to get my guy healthy again.

EHarkin wrote 216 days ago

I will add this to my bookshelf when I get onto my computer tomorrow.

Rossa Forbes wrote 318 days ago

Hi, Todd,
Thanks very much for taking the time to comment. I see you hail from Eugene, Oregon. Perhaps you are already aware that Eugene is a hotbed of innovative thinking on mental health recovery. I have lots of contacts there in the mental health community. MindFreedom is headquartered there. I am backing out of authonomy, and plan to self-publish, but will back your book.
Best regards,
Rossa


This is a very well written, harrowing account of dealing with a very scary condition. I think your careful and detailed writing should be invaluable to people dealing with similar issues. Best of luck to you with this!
Tod
http://authonomy.com/books/40646/the-lost-wink/

Tod Schneider wrote 319 days ago

This is a very well written, harrowing account of dealing with a very scary condition. I think your careful and detailed writing should be invaluable to people dealing with similar issues. Best of luck to you with this!
Tod
http://authonomy.com/books/40646/the-lost-wink/

Bill Carrigan wrote 384 days ago

Dear Rossa-- Your "Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia" (recommended by Petra) is an informative, detailed description of a mother's prolonged experience with her son's illness. Told from a layman's point of view, it expresses a perceptive insight into the symptoms, diagnosis, and varied treatments of this mysterious disorder. It rings with authenticity and level-headed assessment of the current psychiatric situation and leaves one with the impression that your son's recovery may have resulted from this or that regimen, your own dedication, or natural causes. In any event, your book is a contribution to understanding of the disorder and its therapy. --Congratulations on Chris's care and your superb narration,

Bill Carrigan
("The Doctor of Summitville")

Six Foot Bonsai wrote 417 days ago

Hello Rossa. I have a 21 year-old son and a 19 year-old step son. One is very relaxed (too much for my taste); while the other is constantly ranting about politics and religion.

I'm reading this with eyes wide open. It's a very useful, honest account. I'll keep reading. i put it on my bookshelf. Thank you! Stacy G.

strachan gordon wrote 432 days ago

An extremely involving and perturbing first chapter , which fills one with anxiety about the ultimate fate of your son - you are so right when you say the average extrovert adolescent male exhibits traits which at times are hardly distinguishable from schizophrenia , but ,of course ,is all a matter of degree rather than fundamental nature . Watchlisted and starred . Would you be able to look at the first chapter of my novel 'A Buccaneer' w which is set amongst Pirates in the 17th century , with best wishes from Strachan Gordon

Rossa Forbes wrote 461 days ago

Dear David,
Thank you so much for your taking the time to read a few chapters and for your comments. I've been doing a lot of revisions to the book in the last few days, and it's possible that you caught the Table of Contents when it was also being revised. When I went back to check your comment about the Alexander Technique chapter, the Alexander Technique is the correct title for Chapter 27 and it is also briefly mentioned in a subsequent chapter. I've fixed the long gap that you noticed, so thank you. I can see now how it would be easy to skip over the first chapter. I've tweaked the first page make it clearerthat Chris is my son. Thanks for pointing this out.
Best regards, and good luck!
Rossa

I highly recommend this book, not only for people who are interested in learning about alternative treatments for mental illness, but for readers who are interested in holistic therapies in general, and in personal growth. I've read all the available chapters, and thank you for your candid sharing. Five stars.
Jilaine Tarisa
A Moment of Time

Rossa Forbes wrote 461 days ago

Jilaine,
Thank you very much for your recommendation. I am honored to be recommended by an Editor's Desk author!
Best regards,
Rossa

I highly recommend this book, not only for people who are interested in learning about alternative treatments for mental illness, but for readers who are interested in holistic therapies in general, and in personal growth. I've read all the available chapters, and thank you for your candid sharing. Five stars.
Jilaine Tarisa
A Moment of Time

David Price wrote 461 days ago

Rossa, this is a compelling manuscript, one that deserves to be widely read. As you seek to find answers to your son's strange behaviour, your concern and love for him shines through.

Time has so far prevented me from reading more than several chapters. (This includes the one on Alexander Technique, a particular interest of mine. By the way, it appears that it is wrongly listed in the table of contents, you write about in Chapters 25 and 26, not 27.) But I am happy to give it 5 stars, and hope to read more soon.

Oh, I also nearly missed the first chapter, due to the large gap between it and the table of contents. And I was also struck (unless I missed it) that you appear not to call 'Chris' your son in the opening chapters. Perhaps for the sake of clarity, it would be helpful to do so.

Thanks again for your support of 'Master Act'.

David

Jilaine Tarisa wrote 462 days ago

I highly recommend this book, not only for people who are interested in learning about alternative treatments for mental illness, but for readers who are interested in holistic therapies in general, and in personal growth. I've read all the available chapters, and thank you for your candid sharing. Five stars.
Jilaine Tarisa
A Moment of Time

Diwrite wrote 490 days ago

This isn't the sort of thing I'd pick up, but I found it really easy to read and quickly became absorbed.
I hope a lot of people read this.

Starred and shelved with best wishes.

Diana
Pascual's Birthday

Rebel Guru wrote 491 days ago

Hey Rossa,
I read your chapters, I enjoyed your clear narrative in writing, you expressed your own mind and have reflected your own emotional intelligence and limitations beautifully. You are honest about your feelings and show the reader how we all are limited by our conditioning, IMO this humility is the first step in healing our minds...
You have shown modern medicine and science as for now is very limited in understanding the human mind.
Doctor's who have approached psychology and psychiatric problems holistically have achieved better results than just dependence on drugs... wonderful message for mothers/ parents facing your situation.
I want to read chapter 31 to 36. look forward to read when you post them.
Since I am involved in meditation, would love to share some thoughts with you,
Our human mind is psychologically limited by our habitual thinking. All mental disorders, except a few biological and chemical imbalances are present in everyone of us, but most of us manage to stay in balance due to our adaptation to practical reality. I find people who are sensitive and emotionally intelligent loose objectivity sometimes because human life is mentally not very balanced. Simply adapting to stupid mindsets causes conflicts within naturally sensitive minds.
We are naturally gentle compassionate and joyous brains...our conditioning/training has caused us to loose our natural emotional wisdom, our brain is not healthy because we have adapted to live as we learnt.
Our Body( Brain included) heals naturally, it adapts to natural deformities, but in case of our mind, we need to learn how to use our brain naturally, then we heal naturally.
Your book is highly starred by me, and I wish you success since your message is wonderful for parenting in different situations we parents face,

Take care, stay warm and joyous,
love,
Arun.

Wanttobeawriter wrote 512 days ago

HOLISTIC RECOVERY
This is a story that needs to be told as so many other people out there must be wondering about the same things as the author: are the subtle changes they see in their child something to worry about or not? Your writing style is flowing and easy to read. I like the way you begin this by recounting the first signs of schizophrenia and then, how this becomes a family condition, not a single person one. I’m adding this to my shelf. Wanttobeawriter: Who Killed the President?

Justis Call wrote 577 days ago

Wow, what an incredible and exceptionally well-written story. I have only touched the surface of your book, yet have found it intriguing, compelling, fascinating. Many in today's world would do well to learn from your story, your son's life, and your family's triumphs.

Thank you for sharing,
Justis Call
Snow Bound

Rossa Forbes wrote 607 days ago

Hi, Cool,
I really appreciate your taking the time to read the book, and I hope I can do the same for yours. I am finding that I am swamped with work at the moment and falling down in my authonomy obligations. But, I do keep track of books. For the time being I have put yours on my WL for future reference. My manuscript is not finished, I still have to fix the final chapters and find a compelling ending.
Thanks very much for your support.
...Rossa

Cool1 wrote 612 days ago

Rossa: I finished reading your book as it is quite compelling.
Best of luck,
Rich-Cool1

Author apart from the rest wrote 613 days ago

Rossa,

Your book would be a help to anyone with mental illness. Schizophrenia is such a complex and touchy subject; however your book has put this illness into perspective, offering hope and help to those who deal with the subject. Please keep up the superb writing and know that I have placed you on my shelff....

Cool1 wrote 614 days ago

Rossa: I have read the first six chapters of your book, as well as the last and found it to be an interesting account of your son's struggle with Schizophrenia. I am glad to hear he has something that works for him. I work with people in supported housing that have been released from institutions. We don't see many success stories, but have a couple of people in management level positions that function well with their illness. It seems your son may be among the lucky ones that found what works for him.
Cool1

strachan gordon wrote 614 days ago

Hello Rossa , I have been extremely interested in your book about your son and have found it very gripping . i have actually read two chapters when I normally only read one. Extremely well written , the tone cool , but very alert and full of insight - it also raises the problem that , to an extent , all adolescent boys elicit symptoms of schizophrenia with their arrogance , bravado and grandiosity - you obviously know your subject area . I wonder if you would be able to look at the first chapter of my novel 'A Buccaneer' , which is set amongst Pirates in the 17th century . Watchlisted and starred .with best wishes from Strachan Gordon.

elenio wrote 640 days ago

loved what I've read so far, looking forward to reading the rest. You take a fresh new approach to an age old condition.

leelah wrote 648 days ago

Hi Rossa, these are familiar themes for me, and i am grateful that books like this will show people that holistic medicine has NOT got the final answer. As an expressive arts therapist, I have used a mixture of energy-therapy, art modalities and A Course in Miracles - metaphysics. These are also methods I have used on myself - and for me, the metaphysics was the most helpful way.
I love that we are living in these times, where new ways of thinking are flowering the dry landscapes of "take a pill."
I love that I can read about it books like yours, where one can see that your journey together is a spiritual one.
I so hope this is published!
Best of luck!
Leelah saachi, "When fear comes home to love"

HayleyK wrote 666 days ago

I just signed up to this site today and have skimmed through some other peoples' work, but yours has captivated my attention like no other. I've only read a few chapters, but I will be sure to invest more time once I have the chance. Please keep up the great work! I think the disease is very misunderstood and it's wonderful that you are shedding light on the concept. My mother suffers from borderline personality disorder, and it did not make for an easy childhood, considering my father is a cardiologist and very dedicated to his work. This has inspired me to start writing about my own experiences as a child with a parent with a mental disorder. Thank you!

Walden Carrington wrote 666 days ago

Rossa,
I read your introduction with great interest as I have a disdain for the pharmaceutical industry and its quest for profit to the detriment of human health. Natural cures exist which they don't want you to know about to quote a bestselling author who has exposed the greed of this industry and the harm it has caused to people due to the harmful side effects of medications they are continually inventing. Your true story of Chris's recovery from schizophrenia without the use of medication is harrowing and inspiring. It has great practical benefit to anyone who is schizophrenic or knows someone with schizophrenia. I applaud your bravery in sharing this private account with the public and know many would stand to benefit from its publication. Many medications which are frequently prescribed to treat mental illness cause more harm than good due to the dreadful side effects. The drug companies who are inventing more medications in a quest for profit are unconcerned about the natural treatments which would make many prescription medications less profitable if the public were educated about the natural ways of treating illnesses and disorders which are commonly treated with medications that provide no real cure, but simply mask the symptoms and often create other health problems due to the side effects. Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey is a story which should be shared with the public as any recovery program which doesn't involve the conventional prescription of medications should so the public is aware there are alternatives to how the medical establishment treats these conditions.

Walden Carrington
Titanic: Rose Dawson's Story

Stark Silvercoin wrote 692 days ago

I was fascinated by author Rossa Forbes book, Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey. I have a family member who works with people who have mental problems and the really scary part is that over the past ten years, the number of people brought into the institution has tripled. There are more patients there now than at any time in history, and those numbers are growing. From a ground level view like that, its easy to tell that something is wrong. Nobody is being cured, and the number of mentally ill people keeps growing almost exponentially.

Author Rossa Forbes also has a ground level view, within her own family. And instead of accepting that lifetime drug treatment is the answer for her son, she goes on a journey to find a way to actually cure his schizophrenia, not merely treat it.

Although the book could be considered a self-help manual, it’s a lot more personal than that. I feel like I know both Rossa and Chris from reading their story, and I wish them the best.

A book like this needs to be published. The system today is all about containment of the problem, but that is not working. Something is wrong with the current treatment, and I hope books like this one open up the minds of doctors working in the field, and provide comfort and advice for those affected by mental illness.

John Breeden II
Old Number Seven

Heavensent wrote 703 days ago

Rossa, Many thanks for your reply it is heartening to read of Chris' progress.

Good luck with the book

Rossa Forbes wrote 704 days ago

Heavensent, my goodness, you must be a first. Thanks for getting through all the chapters to date. I have a couple of more interesting chapters that I haven't uploaded yet that are about the sound therapy, and then I got stuck because I wanted to make all kinds of links with schizphrenia, God, quantum physics, which is probably overly ambitious on my part. You have given me some ideas that I should discuss the impact on Chris's brothers, but they seem to understand the situation and are supportive. On the other hand, they are urging Chris to do something with his life now that he seems to be more resilient. Chris is doing very well, is 27 years old, sings Handel and Haydn solos in church and is involved in the local amateur operatic society. He also spends two days a week out of town working for an artist. We are all waiting for him to one day announce to us that is is ready to leave the nest and here is what he plans to do that involves further training or university. So far, that has not happened. The point of all those therapies that I dragged us through was to make him (and me!) more reslient, so that life's inevitable slings and arrows don't cripple him as they once did. He is definitely a new person. He has grown a new skin and is not the ghost person that he was as an infant and child. He actually has opinions now about things. I actually don't think that being the centre of attention is something that the person is deliberately demanding. It's more that psychosis is so shocking, so out of the ordinary, that everything else stops around it. But, you may be referring to the chapter on acting, and there is some truth to that. It is interesting that Chris is a soloist, because this means he has to be the center of attention, and he is finding that he is enjoying this. Performing was the last thing I ever imagined him doing when he was a child, since he was trying to fade away into the background. This is a long way of saying that schizophrenia, properly handled, is an opportunity to grow. Again, many thanks for your support and your comments!
...Rossa

Heavensent wrote 704 days ago

Hi Rossa
I finshed reading all the pages you have uploaded, it was quite an investment of time. Well spent I might add. The book gives lots of information on alternative therapies, medications etc. I was left wondering about the two other chilren and how they felt about Chris demanding so much of your time and energy? Do you cover this later in the book? I also wondered if a need to be the centre of attention is synonymous with schizophrenia? Of course the last and most important question is, how is Chris now, or do I have to wait for the book to be published to find out? I've shelved your book and starring it too. Thank you for sharing it.

Rossa Forbes wrote 709 days ago

Thank you, Heavensent. If you have further comments or questions, I'd be happy to respond.
All the best,
Rossa

Heavensent wrote 709 days ago

Dear Rossa

How wonderful that you have been able to document this journey. This book will be a source of of help and inspiration to so many people. I have read some of the pages today and hope to be back later to continue reading your story.

Very best wishes
HS

Dr Ajay Kansal wrote 715 days ago

Hi Rossa
This is an exceptionally important work. Thank you for sharing your experiences with schizophrenia and the medical remedies vs. the faith healing.
This is valuable for those who never encountered schizophrenia: they could understand what the suffering is. The rest who have encountered schizophrenia may learn how to wrestle with such a challenge. In context of your son, I salute your efforts. Being a doctor I am aware that parents of the patient suffer more than the patient.
Furthermore, schizophrenia is still the darkest field of modern medicine.
I wish your book get published: I will certainly buy one.
With best wishes.
Ajay

Dr Ajay Kansal wrote 715 days ago

Hi Rossa
This is an exceptionally important work. Thank you for sharing your experiences with schizophrenia and the medical remedies vs. the faith healing.
This is valuable for those who never encountered schizophrenia: they could understand what the suffering is. The rest who have encountered schizophrenia may learn how to wrestle with such a challenge. In context of your son, I salute your efforts. Being a doctor I am aware that parents of the patient suffer more than the patient.
Furthermore, schizophrenia is still the darkest field of modern medicine.
I wish your book get published: I will certainly buy one.
With best wishes.
Ajay

Rossa Forbes wrote 733 days ago

Thank you, Moe for your support. The difference between me and the other mother's who have written so far about schizophrenia, is largely in the attitude to medication and their belief that schizophrenia is a brain disease. Once you remove yourself from a medical attachment to the illness, I find that real healing is possible.

Have only read two chapters so far and intend to continue. I'm interested in the theme of hindsight-insight that is displayed, where meaning comes to you at a later point in time. That has a significance for me, one that I can relate too. Congratulations for making this journey, it feels very relevant now that we look at people as unique human beings rather than pigeon hole them and make them fit into what is easiest for the medical profession.

moesmith wrote 733 days ago

Have only read two chapters so far and intend to continue. I'm interested in the theme of hindsight-insight that is displayed, where meaning comes to you at a later point in time. That has a significance for me, one that I can relate too. Congratulations for making this journey, it feels very relevant now that we look at people as unique human beings rather than pigeon hole them and make them fit into what is easiest for the medical profession.

Rossa Forbes wrote 739 days ago

Dear Roberta,
Thank you very much for your comments, your backing and your rating. I am humbled. I hope my book informs people about the over-reliance on medications and pharma when it comes to mental health.
Best regards,
Rossa
Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey

Wow, this is a break-through book and excerpts should be published in The New Yorker or some such magazine. I also think this is a must read, possibly even for academia. First of all, it is extremely well written and exposes the miss-application of psychotropic drugs for mental health issues, which is especially rampant in the USA. As someone whom has worked with the homeless community I can attest to the unreliable efficacy of some of the medications. Medication is only effective with other treatment like behavioral modification (coping), environmental adaptation, and monitoring. As someone who knew there was something wrong with my son by age 3 (ADHD, ODD) I can attest to the tendency for institutional thinking and applying blame. I am definitely backing this book and rating a 6. Thanks for sharing your journey to the benefit of us all.
Roberta

healthpolicymaven wrote 739 days ago

Wow, this is a break-through book and excerpts should be published in The New Yorker or some such magazine. I also think this is a must read, possibly even for academia. First of all, it is extremely well written and exposes the miss-application of psychotropic drugs for mental health issues, which is especially rampant in the USA. As someone whom has worked with the homeless community I can attest to the unreliable efficacy of some of the medications. Medication is only effective with other treatment like behavioral modification (coping), environmental adaptation, and monitoring. As someone who knew there was something wrong with my son by age 3 (ADHD, ODD) I can attest to the tendency for institutional thinking and applying blame. I am definitely backing this book and rating a 6. Thanks for sharing your journey to the benefit of us all.
Roberta

Marita A. Hansen wrote 759 days ago

I read chapter 1 today, and thought it was very interesting, the little signs that you were picking up about the things that you felt weren't quite right about Chris's behaviour. The tapping of his head, the grandiose attitude, and his stand-offish attitude towards people. I haven't watched that film you mentioned, and didn't realise Nash was schizophrenic. I knew he had mental health issues, but it was interesting to hear about Nash's room-mate being in his imagination. But to a schizophrenic person, whether they are imaginary or not, they are very real to them.

I only noticed one thing that jumped out at me. You have a typo in regards to how late you were with Chris's pregnancy. It says you were 26 days overdue.

That's all for now. I'll have a read of chapter 2 when I get some more time. Off to write. Best wishes, Marita.

Rossa Forbes wrote 768 days ago


Marita - Thank you for your comments. I noticed your book on the top 5 list, but have not had much time to read other authors books of late. So I'm intrigrued to see that the hood is actually a neighbourhood and not a car hood, as I originally surmised. If it is easier, I can send you any chapters you want. I find it frustrating to read books on authonomy. There is only so much staring at a computer screen one can take.
Congratulations of your medal!
...Rossa

I saw your book recommended on the forum, and decided to read it because I've written about a schizophrenic character in my book. The person in chapter 2 and 4 is based on someone that I know, someone that is very important and dear. I'm not reading your book to get anything out of you as I have already got a medal on my book so you don't need to reciprocate. This review is purely because your topic is of interest.

I've just finished the introduction but will definitely be reading on. The mention of weight gain was something that jumped out at me. The person who has schizophrenia, as well as someone else I know who is classed as "Psychotic" (a horrible term), also complained about pills causing weight gain. I don't quite know everything about what the psychotic person experiences, but your mention of visions and voices fitted in with the schizophrenic person (I'd rather not name names). She has spirit guides, people who only she sees and speaks to.

Anyway, your intro was nicely written and I didn't notice anything that I could suggest to change. I'll let you know what I think of the first chapter when I get some more time. Kind regards, Marita.

Rossa Forbes wrote 768 days ago

Hi, Ben,
Thank you for taking the time to read a bit of my book and to send your comments. (Thanks for backing it!) No, I'm not an academic, just a mother who got pushed into something that she never imagined would happen. Interesting comment about the repetition. I am self-conscious about it, not sure if it works or not, so thanks for your feedback. I felt that my added value in writing the book was that I was a mother and most mothers are reluctant to write about their child's so called mental illness. I am also a mother who doesn't buy into the current love affair with pharma. I feel pharma lets parents off the hook of doing the really hard job of understanding and empathy, which leads to healing. Enough about me. I checked you out and see that your wine book will be published soon. Congratulationsl You also have a nice blog musing about the things that make live worth living - food, wine, music. You sound like the kind of person who I would love to have live next door.
Best regards,
Rossa


I have read the introduction and chapter 17. You write extremely well. The introduction is scholarly,

and makes me wonder whether you are an academic. Chapter 17, of course, moves into the memoir - because that is what this book is about. You use repetition effectively (rather than clunkily - a difficult trick to pull off). Even though I have only read two chapters, the book as a whole looks like it will be a convincing argument against the pharma industry and for alternative methods of healing. I am slightly dubious about amazing claims made (not in your book - just in general) on behalf of Alternative Medicine, having read 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre, but I suspect that for mental health issues the alternative model is valid in many cases.

Marita A. Hansen wrote 769 days ago

I saw your book recommended on the forum, and decided to read it because I've written about a schizophrenic character in my book. The person in chapter 2 and 4 is based on someone that I know, someone that is very important and dear. I'm not reading your book to get anything out of you as I have already got a medal on my book so you don't need to reciprocate. This review is purely because your topic is of interest.

I've just finished the introduction but will definitely be reading on. The mention of weight gain was something that jumped out at me. The person who has schizophrenia, as well as someone else I know who is classed as "Psychotic" (a horrible term), also complained about pills causing weight gain. I don't quite know everything about what the psychotic person experiences, but your mention of visions and voices fitted in with the schizophrenic person (I'd rather not name names). She has spirit guides, people who only she sees and speaks to.

Anyway, your intro was nicely written and I didn't notice anything that I could suggest to change. I'll let you know what I think of the first chapter when I get some more time. Kind regards, Marita.

Ben Hardy wrote 769 days ago

I have read the introduction and chapter 17. You write extremely well. The introduction is scholarly, and makes me wonder whether you are an academic. Chapter 17, of course, moves into the memoir - because that is what this book is about. You use repetition effectively (rather than clunkily - a difficult trick to pull off). Even though I have only read two chapters, the book as a whole looks like it will be a convincing argument against the pharma industry and for alternative methods of healing. I am slightly dubious about amazing claims made (not in your book - just in general) on behalf of Alternative Medicine, having read 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre, but I suspect that for mental health issues the alternative model is valid in many cases.

Rossa Forbes wrote 802 days ago

Thank you, Judy, for these really nice words. I've looked at your book, it looks promising, and will put it on my WL for the time being for a better read later. I'm not as active on this site right now as I would hope.
Best regards,
Rossa

J.Adams wrote 803 days ago

It has already been said - this is an important work. Thank you for sharing your and Chris's experiences with schizophrenia and the accepted medical practice vs. the myriad alternatives one can explore. I wish you both well, I hope you will let me know if or when you post the rest of your book, and I hope you find a publisher. Books like this are too important to fall by the wayside. This needs to be out where people who seek alternatives can find it and benefit from your insights.
All the best,
Judy

Rossa Forbes wrote 808 days ago

Balepy - Much appreciated.
Rossa (Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey)

Balepy wrote 808 days ago

Rossa - your book on schizophrenia and various methods of seeking recovery is invaluable. Backed with stars and I shall read more of it. Balepy (Freckles the Fawn)

Balepy wrote 808 days ago

Rossa - your book on schizophrenia and various methods of seeking recovery is invaluable. Backed with stars and I shall read more of it. Balepy (Freckles the Fawn)

Rossa Forbes wrote 813 days ago

That's very interesting aboubt Kraepelin and the Rockefeller Foundation. I did a quick google check and his Institute in Munich received the Rockefeller money two years after Kraepelin died. If you have further information on why Rockefeller was interested in psychiatric research, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks for supporting my book. I revised my profile about an hour ago to reflect what I think is really unique about my memoir.

Cristy DeLange wrote 813 days ago

Excactely that's misspelled but who cares. Prozac and other drugs is an invention of the parmaceutical companies to fill their pockets. It also keeps the psychiatrists aflood, who otherwise will be out of work and in the ditch. I learned during my research that Kraeplin received $ 575,000 for research in Europe from Rockefeller. They owned the petroleum industry and they recently had discovered that by poducts of petroleum could be used to produce medicine.

M. A. McRae. wrote 815 days ago

This is a well-written and an absorbing book, but more importantly, it is a valuable book that points out the failures of pyschiatry - failures that ruin lives.
This is one that I would buy, and study. This is an exceptional book.
Marj.

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