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Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey

Rossa Forbes

A mother's quantum quest for healing, asking big questions and getting surprising anwers.

 

Chris's journey becomes his mother's journey when she starts to investigate why he is not getting better, and why, after two years in a day program he is still an enigma to the doctors. The journey takes some unusual detours into modalities of healing and thought that are not part of what is considered the proper medical treatment for schizophrenia today. To help heal her son, she first must learn that his condition is not a pathological disease. Part coming-of-age story, part do-it-yourself manual, Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia shows where mental health treatment is headed at the dawn of the 21st century.

 
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The Mother as the Observer

When we arrived back in Geneva, I got to thinking about what Dr. Blaen had said about the assemblage point beginning to split around the age of ten. I recalled the recent surreal experience of finding Chris in a darkened apartment after my week away and I began to reflect on the incident in the park with the bullies when he was ten. Those were two times when I had seen him spooked.  Had he shown signs of schizophrenia back then? I hadn’t recognized them. Could his troubles have started that long ago? 

I questioned Chris about what had happened in the park all those years ago, and he finally leveled with me.

 “Mom, I don’t want to say much about it except that I saw a spaceship land in the park and I saw extraterrestrials get out and they were chasing me!”

I could fall down with worry about Chris’s shocking revelation, or I could deconstruct my fear, a practice that was gradually becoming habitual. Was he sicker than I imagined, since his hallucinatory experiences surely had been going on for so long? So what if he had signs of schizophrenia when he was ten—schizophrenia probably doesn’t just pop up all of a sudden at seventeen or eighteen. It didn’t mean he couldn’t get well. Framing the experience as a spiritual one, not a pathological one, offered a more reassuring explanation.

Chris's story had a Biblical precedent. The prophet Ezekiel had a similar experience to what we could refer to as an extraterrestrial encounter. He described it instead as “the word of the Lord” coming directly into him. He saw a whirlwind and fire, and four creatures with wings and a wheeled vehicle thundering down from the sky. “The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel . . . This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.”[1] 

Quantum physicists have another explanation, one which I believe complements  the knowledge of the existence of God. They believe that extraterrestrial encounters such as Chris had, are hallucinations, or altered states of awareness that  exist as “parallel universes” to our everyday reality. Parallel universes are almost identical to our own but weirdly different in some way. Science fiction writers have relied on this quirky theme for years. Psychologist  Peter K. Chadwick, author of Schizophrenia: The Positive Perspective, in a paper delivered to the Scientific and Medical Network, stated that schizophrenia might be better understood if  we consider that “genuine spiritual and paranormal forces operate on the person at least during and perhaps before and after their schizophrenic illness.” Chadwick recommended that the realization and acceptance of  the spiritual dimension and extra-sensory experiences “should form an important part of the treatment and rehabilitation process.”[2] In other words, what many people call “paranormal,” a quantum physicist might say is simply outside the limits of the current knowledge of the universe.

An important concept in quantum physics is the role of an observer. A well-known hypothesis called “Everett’s many worlds theory” builds on Niels Bohr’s Copenhagen theory, which supposes that an action seen by an observer has more than one possible outcome. Everett’s theory holds that the universe splits whether an action is either taken or not taken. Physicist David Z. Albert has put a slightly different spin on Everett’s theory, which I believe is very important to the understanding of schizophrenia. Albert maintains that the term “many worlds” is actually incorrect and instead suggests that “many viewpoints” more accurately describes Everett’s theory. This is, in essence, the schizophrenic problem of ambivalence: holding two (or possibly more) opposing views in which the center cannot hold. Both physicists offer a plausible theory for Chris’s lifelong aversion to making a choice.

At college, I was an art history major, not a physics major. Physics is hard for me  to wrap my mind around. The implications of quantum physics are still not well understood, even by quantum physicists. What I can say with some conviction is that developments in quantum physics will lead to greater understanding of schizophrenia and new treatment methodologies will emerge as a result.

For the compassionate observer, schizophrenia brings us closer to awareness that we are all subject to a supreme power in the universe, but a spark of that divinity is also within us. My home-made understanding of schizophrenic ambivalence arising from a cosmic split forced me to reconsider my past approach to Chris, to accept that my own words and actions may have caused him to shrink from choice.  But rather than dwell on Chris's present state (and my contribution to it) as something negative, which would serve no one well, there is another way of looking at this thing called schizophrenia, and that is to see, like Ezekiel did, a powerful and spiritual vision of God's immense power. Schizophrenia is a life force.

Ancient and indigenous peoples seem to have understood multiple realities better than modern people do. Author Hermann Hesse once wrote that modern science is in the Stone Age compared to the teachings of ancient Indian mythology.[3] Indigenous people, such as the Toltec civilization from which Don Juan came, knew that hallucinogens could deliver a person to an altered dimension where extraordinary things happen. Although he did not know the physics of the assemblage point, Don Juan knew what moving it could do.

It made perfect sense to me that Chris began experiencing altered realities or parallel universes at the time that his assemblage point was breaking up since what I knew about the assemblage point is that it is related to the vibrational energy of the universe from the point of conception. Altered states of awareness such as those that occur in schizophrenia and lucid dreaming may be indications that universes parallel to our own do exist..

In addition to alien encounters, other paranormal phenomenon related to schizophrenia, God, and physics are the Akashic field, synchronicity, and nonlocality. The Akashic field houses the collection of universal truth, to which all people have access, and which all religions and shamanic traditions have acknowledged and accessed in some way. The field, also referred to as the Universal Mind or the Spirit of the living God,[4] functions more like a data input and retrieval system or a modern lending library, and is not the same as what psychiatrist Carl Jung termed the collective unconsciousshared inheritance, thoughts, and memories, symbolically described as fairy tales, myths, and fantasies.

Jung published a paper in1952 entitled Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle [5] in which the concept of synchronicity, his intuition that the universe was governed by relational principles grouped by meaning, not cause, which supported his concepts of archtypes and the collective unconscious.  Synchronicity is the uncanny coincidence with which most of us are familiar. You were just thinking of someone you haven’t been in touch with for ten years, the phone rings, and  that person is on the other end of the line. One event does not cause the other. They occur because the Universal Mind contains both our consciousness and external events. Events reflect our consciousness and vice versa because neither time nor space exists in the Universal Mind.

Nonlocality, a concept that subatomic particles are governed by relational principles, hypothesized by John Stewart Bell in 1964, tweaks conventional relativity theory by demonstrating that the behavior of  one particle can be accurately predicted by examining how another particle is behaving, and posits that they have a causal relationship, even though they are separated by great distances. Conventional relativity theory says that the particles have to be close together to affect each other. Nonlocality jettisoned conventional relativity theory in 1982 when Bell's theorem was proved in an experiment at the University of Paris-South. Jung's intuition about the universe being governed by rational principles was ahead of its time. Authors Kafatos and Nadeau wrote about the Paris findings: It appeared as if these results had provided final confirmation that the classical view of the relations between physical theory and physical reality (our folk metaphysics), which quantum physics had been challenging for some time, was not longer supportable.[6] 

When Dr. Erika does long-distance muscle testing on Chris, for example, she is using modern kinesiology to tap into the nonlocal library of knowledge to find the particular record that Chris has left in the Akashic field, even though doctor and patient are separated by a continent. On the other hand, there is a meaning to the universe that goes beyond mere fact retrieval, and that is synchronicity.

The schizophrenic individual is criticized as crazy for finding meaningful coincidences or synchronicities more than the average person. I remember dining in a local café with the family when Chris was sliding into psychosis. Chris was obviously impressed with the name of the restaurant, CAFNO,  the first three letters which were the first letter of each of his names, Christopher Adair Forbes, with a negation at the end. He repeated and elaborated the name of the restaurant throughout the evening in a self-admonishing tone of voice, CAF-NO, CAF-NO, as if the restaurant had been specifically chosen that evening to deliver a secret, damning message to him.

I began to pay attention to synchronistic events in my life. The more I became aware of how synchronicity works, the more wondrous life became.


 

[1] The Bible, King James Version, Ezekiel 1:16, 1:28.

[2] Peter K. Chadwick, Is there an ‘X Factor’ in Schizophrenic Illness?” http://www.scimednet.org/Articles/MHchadwick.htm

[3] Hermann Hesse, Steppenwolf (PUB INFO), xxx [PAGE #].

[4] The Bible, King James Version, II Corinthians verse 3 describes a book Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

[5], Synchronizität als ein Prinzip akausaler Zusammenhänge/ der Einfluss archetypischer Vorsstellungen auf die Bildung naturwissenschaftlicher Theorien bei Kepler,C G Jung; Wolfgang Pauli; C.G. Jung-Institut, Zürich Rascher, 1952

[6] Kaftos and Nadeau, The Conscious Universe: Part and Whole in Modern Physical Theory, 1990

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Rossa Forbes wrote 125 days ago

Thanks so much for sharing your story. There is lots of hope, and I try to share the hope as best I can. I am still editing the book, and have not written a final chapter, but I wonder if there ever is a final chapter in an evolving life? If you are interested, I have a blog that you can take a look at. I try to stay upbeat and positive. Lately I've been doing more posting of other people's materials.
http://holisticschizophrenia.blogspot.com is my blog.
You might also want to check out the Mad in America site www.madinamerica.com which is a lively forum of the latest thinking in mental illness, psychiatry and science. An important thing to help anyone is to try to understand their world in order to establish good communication. This takes an open mind and lots of reading from a wide variety of sources. I began to pay attention to what recovered people said worked for them. They are the best experts. So,yes, there's lots of hope for your son. He sounds like my son. My son is doing well now, and after several years is beginning to talk about going back to college. We still do not rush him. All in good time. I'm so glad you reached out. Please keep in touch!
Best regards,
Rossa

jerib17230 wrote 126 days ago

At last! Some help for another mother and son...Thank you, thank you...After reading for two hours, I'm now on chapter 11. I find many similarities between your story and our current situation. You are blessed that your son was not over 21 when the symptoms began. We were unable to see a psychologist without our son's permission which he never gave. As a result, our son lives 400 miles away in an apartment we rent for him. Our bright son was in college for aeronautics when things began to fall apart. He was very secretive and was homeless without us even knowing it! We thought he was in school, but he wasn't. Finally, after not hearing from him for several days, I drove to the small college town located near the forest and literally waited on the street for him to meet with me. At that time, he was willing to read text messages from me and met me there. Now, he refuses to keep in regular contact. This of course, makes my husband and me very sad. He refuses to see a doctor--he's in fear of being medicated. Your book gives me so much hope. I will continue to read to the end and hopefully will find answers for our predicament. Once I get through this period of anguish and my son is healthy again, I will be happy to help you get the word out to others anyway I can. I have a Masters degree in Education, and a Bachelors in Business Mgmt. If I can assist other parents experiencing this pain, I will be honored to do so. But, I need to get my guy healthy again.

EHarkin wrote 211 days ago

I will add this to my bookshelf when I get onto my computer tomorrow.

Rossa Forbes wrote 312 days ago

Hi, Todd,
Thanks very much for taking the time to comment. I see you hail from Eugene, Oregon. Perhaps you are already aware that Eugene is a hotbed of innovative thinking on mental health recovery. I have lots of contacts there in the mental health community. MindFreedom is headquartered there. I am backing out of authonomy, and plan to self-publish, but will back your book.
Best regards,
Rossa


This is a very well written, harrowing account of dealing with a very scary condition. I think your careful and detailed writing should be invaluable to people dealing with similar issues. Best of luck to you with this!
Tod
http://authonomy.com/books/40646/the-lost-wink/

Tod Schneider wrote 314 days ago

This is a very well written, harrowing account of dealing with a very scary condition. I think your careful and detailed writing should be invaluable to people dealing with similar issues. Best of luck to you with this!
Tod
http://authonomy.com/books/40646/the-lost-wink/

Bill Carrigan wrote 379 days ago

Dear Rossa-- Your "Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia" (recommended by Petra) is an informative, detailed description of a mother's prolonged experience with her son's illness. Told from a layman's point of view, it expresses a perceptive insight into the symptoms, diagnosis, and varied treatments of this mysterious disorder. It rings with authenticity and level-headed assessment of the current psychiatric situation and leaves one with the impression that your son's recovery may have resulted from this or that regimen, your own dedication, or natural causes. In any event, your book is a contribution to understanding of the disorder and its therapy. --Congratulations on Chris's care and your superb narration,

Bill Carrigan
("The Doctor of Summitville")

Six Foot Bonsai wrote 412 days ago

Hello Rossa. I have a 21 year-old son and a 19 year-old step son. One is very relaxed (too much for my taste); while the other is constantly ranting about politics and religion.

I'm reading this with eyes wide open. It's a very useful, honest account. I'll keep reading. i put it on my bookshelf. Thank you! Stacy G.

strachan gordon wrote 427 days ago

An extremely involving and perturbing first chapter , which fills one with anxiety about the ultimate fate of your son - you are so right when you say the average extrovert adolescent male exhibits traits which at times are hardly distinguishable from schizophrenia , but ,of course ,is all a matter of degree rather than fundamental nature . Watchlisted and starred . Would you be able to look at the first chapter of my novel 'A Buccaneer' w which is set amongst Pirates in the 17th century , with best wishes from Strachan Gordon

Rossa Forbes wrote 455 days ago

Dear David,
Thank you so much for your taking the time to read a few chapters and for your comments. I've been doing a lot of revisions to the book in the last few days, and it's possible that you caught the Table of Contents when it was also being revised. When I went back to check your comment about the Alexander Technique chapter, the Alexander Technique is the correct title for Chapter 27 and it is also briefly mentioned in a subsequent chapter. I've fixed the long gap that you noticed, so thank you. I can see now how it would be easy to skip over the first chapter. I've tweaked the first page make it clearerthat Chris is my son. Thanks for pointing this out.
Best regards, and good luck!
Rossa

I highly recommend this book, not only for people who are interested in learning about alternative treatments for mental illness, but for readers who are interested in holistic therapies in general, and in personal growth. I've read all the available chapters, and thank you for your candid sharing. Five stars.
Jilaine Tarisa
A Moment of Time

Rossa Forbes wrote 455 days ago

Jilaine,
Thank you very much for your recommendation. I am honored to be recommended by an Editor's Desk author!
Best regards,
Rossa

I highly recommend this book, not only for people who are interested in learning about alternative treatments for mental illness, but for readers who are interested in holistic therapies in general, and in personal growth. I've read all the available chapters, and thank you for your candid sharing. Five stars.
Jilaine Tarisa
A Moment of Time

David Price wrote 456 days ago

Rossa, this is a compelling manuscript, one that deserves to be widely read. As you seek to find answers to your son's strange behaviour, your concern and love for him shines through.

Time has so far prevented me from reading more than several chapters. (This includes the one on Alexander Technique, a particular interest of mine. By the way, it appears that it is wrongly listed in the table of contents, you write about in Chapters 25 and 26, not 27.) But I am happy to give it 5 stars, and hope to read more soon.

Oh, I also nearly missed the first chapter, due to the large gap between it and the table of contents. And I was also struck (unless I missed it) that you appear not to call 'Chris' your son in the opening chapters. Perhaps for the sake of clarity, it would be helpful to do so.

Thanks again for your support of 'Master Act'.

David

Jilaine Tarisa wrote 457 days ago

I highly recommend this book, not only for people who are interested in learning about alternative treatments for mental illness, but for readers who are interested in holistic therapies in general, and in personal growth. I've read all the available chapters, and thank you for your candid sharing. Five stars.
Jilaine Tarisa
A Moment of Time

Diwrite wrote 485 days ago

This isn't the sort of thing I'd pick up, but I found it really easy to read and quickly became absorbed.
I hope a lot of people read this.

Starred and shelved with best wishes.

Diana
Pascual's Birthday

Rebel Guru wrote 485 days ago

Hey Rossa,
I read your chapters, I enjoyed your clear narrative in writing, you expressed your own mind and have reflected your own emotional intelligence and limitations beautifully. You are honest about your feelings and show the reader how we all are limited by our conditioning, IMO this humility is the first step in healing our minds...
You have shown modern medicine and science as for now is very limited in understanding the human mind.
Doctor's who have approached psychology and psychiatric problems holistically have achieved better results than just dependence on drugs... wonderful message for mothers/ parents facing your situation.
I want to read chapter 31 to 36. look forward to read when you post them.
Since I am involved in meditation, would love to share some thoughts with you,
Our human mind is psychologically limited by our habitual thinking. All mental disorders, except a few biological and chemical imbalances are present in everyone of us, but most of us manage to stay in balance due to our adaptation to practical reality. I find people who are sensitive and emotionally intelligent loose objectivity sometimes because human life is mentally not very balanced. Simply adapting to stupid mindsets causes conflicts within naturally sensitive minds.
We are naturally gentle compassionate and joyous brains...our conditioning/training has caused us to loose our natural emotional wisdom, our brain is not healthy because we have adapted to live as we learnt.
Our Body( Brain included) heals naturally, it adapts to natural deformities, but in case of our mind, we need to learn how to use our brain naturally, then we heal naturally.
Your book is highly starred by me, and I wish you success since your message is wonderful for parenting in different situations we parents face,

Take care, stay warm and joyous,
love,
Arun.

Wanttobeawriter wrote 506 days ago

HOLISTIC RECOVERY
This is a story that needs to be told as so many other people out there must be wondering about the same things as the author: are the subtle changes they see in their child something to worry about or not? Your writing style is flowing and easy to read. I like the way you begin this by recounting the first signs of schizophrenia and then, how this becomes a family condition, not a single person one. I’m adding this to my shelf. Wanttobeawriter: Who Killed the President?

Justis Call wrote 572 days ago

Wow, what an incredible and exceptionally well-written story. I have only touched the surface of your book, yet have found it intriguing, compelling, fascinating. Many in today's world would do well to learn from your story, your son's life, and your family's triumphs.

Thank you for sharing,
Justis Call
Snow Bound

Rossa Forbes wrote 601 days ago

Hi, Cool,
I really appreciate your taking the time to read the book, and I hope I can do the same for yours. I am finding that I am swamped with work at the moment and falling down in my authonomy obligations. But, I do keep track of books. For the time being I have put yours on my WL for future reference. My manuscript is not finished, I still have to fix the final chapters and find a compelling ending.
Thanks very much for your support.
...Rossa

Cool1 wrote 607 days ago

Rossa: I finished reading your book as it is quite compelling.
Best of luck,
Rich-Cool1

Author apart from the rest wrote 607 days ago

Rossa,

Your book would be a help to anyone with mental illness. Schizophrenia is such a complex and touchy subject; however your book has put this illness into perspective, offering hope and help to those who deal with the subject. Please keep up the superb writing and know that I have placed you on my shelff....

Cool1 wrote 609 days ago

Rossa: I have read the first six chapters of your book, as well as the last and found it to be an interesting account of your son's struggle with Schizophrenia. I am glad to hear he has something that works for him. I work with people in supported housing that have been released from institutions. We don't see many success stories, but have a couple of people in management level positions that function well with their illness. It seems your son may be among the lucky ones that found what works for him.
Cool1

strachan gordon wrote 609 days ago

Hello Rossa , I have been extremely interested in your book about your son and have found it very gripping . i have actually read two chapters when I normally only read one. Extremely well written , the tone cool , but very alert and full of insight - it also raises the problem that , to an extent , all adolescent boys elicit symptoms of schizophrenia with their arrogance , bravado and grandiosity - you obviously know your subject area . I wonder if you would be able to look at the first chapter of my novel 'A Buccaneer' , which is set amongst Pirates in the 17th century . Watchlisted and starred .with best wishes from Strachan Gordon.

elenio wrote 635 days ago

loved what I've read so far, looking forward to reading the rest. You take a fresh new approach to an age old condition.

leelah wrote 643 days ago

Hi Rossa, these are familiar themes for me, and i am grateful that books like this will show people that holistic medicine has NOT got the final answer. As an expressive arts therapist, I have used a mixture of energy-therapy, art modalities and A Course in Miracles - metaphysics. These are also methods I have used on myself - and for me, the metaphysics was the most helpful way.
I love that we are living in these times, where new ways of thinking are flowering the dry landscapes of "take a pill."
I love that I can read about it books like yours, where one can see that your journey together is a spiritual one.
I so hope this is published!
Best of luck!
Leelah saachi, "When fear comes home to love"

HayleyK wrote 661 days ago

I just signed up to this site today and have skimmed through some other peoples' work, but yours has captivated my attention like no other. I've only read a few chapters, but I will be sure to invest more time once I have the chance. Please keep up the great work! I think the disease is very misunderstood and it's wonderful that you are shedding light on the concept. My mother suffers from borderline personality disorder, and it did not make for an easy childhood, considering my father is a cardiologist and very dedicated to his work. This has inspired me to start writing about my own experiences as a child with a parent with a mental disorder. Thank you!

Walden Carrington wrote 661 days ago

Rossa,
I read your introduction with great interest as I have a disdain for the pharmaceutical industry and its quest for profit to the detriment of human health. Natural cures exist which they don't want you to know about to quote a bestselling author who has exposed the greed of this industry and the harm it has caused to people due to the harmful side effects of medications they are continually inventing. Your true story of Chris's recovery from schizophrenia without the use of medication is harrowing and inspiring. It has great practical benefit to anyone who is schizophrenic or knows someone with schizophrenia. I applaud your bravery in sharing this private account with the public and know many would stand to benefit from its publication. Many medications which are frequently prescribed to treat mental illness cause more harm than good due to the dreadful side effects. The drug companies who are inventing more medications in a quest for profit are unconcerned about the natural treatments which would make many prescription medications less profitable if the public were educated about the natural ways of treating illnesses and disorders which are commonly treated with medications that provide no real cure, but simply mask the symptoms and often create other health problems due to the side effects. Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey is a story which should be shared with the public as any recovery program which doesn't involve the conventional prescription of medications should so the public is aware there are alternatives to how the medical establishment treats these conditions.

Walden Carrington
Titanic: Rose Dawson's Story

Stark Silvercoin wrote 686 days ago

I was fascinated by author Rossa Forbes book, Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey. I have a family member who works with people who have mental problems and the really scary part is that over the past ten years, the number of people brought into the institution has tripled. There are more patients there now than at any time in history, and those numbers are growing. From a ground level view like that, its easy to tell that something is wrong. Nobody is being cured, and the number of mentally ill people keeps growing almost exponentially.

Author Rossa Forbes also has a ground level view, within her own family. And instead of accepting that lifetime drug treatment is the answer for her son, she goes on a journey to find a way to actually cure his schizophrenia, not merely treat it.

Although the book could be considered a self-help manual, it’s a lot more personal than that. I feel like I know both Rossa and Chris from reading their story, and I wish them the best.

A book like this needs to be published. The system today is all about containment of the problem, but that is not working. Something is wrong with the current treatment, and I hope books like this one open up the minds of doctors working in the field, and provide comfort and advice for those affected by mental illness.

John Breeden II
Old Number Seven

Heavensent wrote 697 days ago

Rossa, Many thanks for your reply it is heartening to read of Chris' progress.

Good luck with the book

Rossa Forbes wrote 698 days ago

Heavensent, my goodness, you must be a first. Thanks for getting through all the chapters to date. I have a couple of more interesting chapters that I haven't uploaded yet that are about the sound therapy, and then I got stuck because I wanted to make all kinds of links with schizphrenia, God, quantum physics, which is probably overly ambitious on my part. You have given me some ideas that I should discuss the impact on Chris's brothers, but they seem to understand the situation and are supportive. On the other hand, they are urging Chris to do something with his life now that he seems to be more resilient. Chris is doing very well, is 27 years old, sings Handel and Haydn solos in church and is involved in the local amateur operatic society. He also spends two days a week out of town working for an artist. We are all waiting for him to one day announce to us that is is ready to leave the nest and here is what he plans to do that involves further training or university. So far, that has not happened. The point of all those therapies that I dragged us through was to make him (and me!) more reslient, so that life's inevitable slings and arrows don't cripple him as they once did. He is definitely a new person. He has grown a new skin and is not the ghost person that he was as an infant and child. He actually has opinions now about things. I actually don't think that being the centre of attention is something that the person is deliberately demanding. It's more that psychosis is so shocking, so out of the ordinary, that everything else stops around it. But, you may be referring to the chapter on acting, and there is some truth to that. It is interesting that Chris is a soloist, because this means he has to be the center of attention, and he is finding that he is enjoying this. Performing was the last thing I ever imagined him doing when he was a child, since he was trying to fade away into the background. This is a long way of saying that schizophrenia, properly handled, is an opportunity to grow. Again, many thanks for your support and your comments!
...Rossa

Heavensent wrote 698 days ago

Hi Rossa
I finshed reading all the pages you have uploaded, it was quite an investment of time. Well spent I might add. The book gives lots of information on alternative therapies, medications etc. I was left wondering about the two other chilren and how they felt about Chris demanding so much of your time and energy? Do you cover this later in the book? I also wondered if a need to be the centre of attention is synonymous with schizophrenia? Of course the last and most important question is, how is Chris now, or do I have to wait for the book to be published to find out? I've shelved your book and starring it too. Thank you for sharing it.

Rossa Forbes wrote 703 days ago

Thank you, Heavensent. If you have further comments or questions, I'd be happy to respond.
All the best,
Rossa

Heavensent wrote 703 days ago

Dear Rossa

How wonderful that you have been able to document this journey. This book will be a source of of help and inspiration to so many people. I have read some of the pages today and hope to be back later to continue reading your story.

Very best wishes
HS

Dr Ajay Kansal wrote 709 days ago

Hi Rossa
This is an exceptionally important work. Thank you for sharing your experiences with schizophrenia and the medical remedies vs. the faith healing.
This is valuable for those who never encountered schizophrenia: they could understand what the suffering is. The rest who have encountered schizophrenia may learn how to wrestle with such a challenge. In context of your son, I salute your efforts. Being a doctor I am aware that parents of the patient suffer more than the patient.
Furthermore, schizophrenia is still the darkest field of modern medicine.
I wish your book get published: I will certainly buy one.
With best wishes.
Ajay

Dr Ajay Kansal wrote 709 days ago

Hi Rossa
This is an exceptionally important work. Thank you for sharing your experiences with schizophrenia and the medical remedies vs. the faith healing.
This is valuable for those who never encountered schizophrenia: they could understand what the suffering is. The rest who have encountered schizophrenia may learn how to wrestle with such a challenge. In context of your son, I salute your efforts. Being a doctor I am aware that parents of the patient suffer more than the patient.
Furthermore, schizophrenia is still the darkest field of modern medicine.
I wish your book get published: I will certainly buy one.
With best wishes.
Ajay

Rossa Forbes wrote 727 days ago

Thank you, Moe for your support. The difference between me and the other mother's who have written so far about schizophrenia, is largely in the attitude to medication and their belief that schizophrenia is a brain disease. Once you remove yourself from a medical attachment to the illness, I find that real healing is possible.

Have only read two chapters so far and intend to continue. I'm interested in the theme of hindsight-insight that is displayed, where meaning comes to you at a later point in time. That has a significance for me, one that I can relate too. Congratulations for making this journey, it feels very relevant now that we look at people as unique human beings rather than pigeon hole them and make them fit into what is easiest for the medical profession.

moesmith wrote 727 days ago

Have only read two chapters so far and intend to continue. I'm interested in the theme of hindsight-insight that is displayed, where meaning comes to you at a later point in time. That has a significance for me, one that I can relate too. Congratulations for making this journey, it feels very relevant now that we look at people as unique human beings rather than pigeon hole them and make them fit into what is easiest for the medical profession.

Rossa Forbes wrote 733 days ago

Dear Roberta,
Thank you very much for your comments, your backing and your rating. I am humbled. I hope my book informs people about the over-reliance on medications and pharma when it comes to mental health.
Best regards,
Rossa
Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey

Wow, this is a break-through book and excerpts should be published in The New Yorker or some such magazine. I also think this is a must read, possibly even for academia. First of all, it is extremely well written and exposes the miss-application of psychotropic drugs for mental health issues, which is especially rampant in the USA. As someone whom has worked with the homeless community I can attest to the unreliable efficacy of some of the medications. Medication is only effective with other treatment like behavioral modification (coping), environmental adaptation, and monitoring. As someone who knew there was something wrong with my son by age 3 (ADHD, ODD) I can attest to the tendency for institutional thinking and applying blame. I am definitely backing this book and rating a 6. Thanks for sharing your journey to the benefit of us all.
Roberta

healthpolicymaven wrote 734 days ago

Wow, this is a break-through book and excerpts should be published in The New Yorker or some such magazine. I also think this is a must read, possibly even for academia. First of all, it is extremely well written and exposes the miss-application of psychotropic drugs for mental health issues, which is especially rampant in the USA. As someone whom has worked with the homeless community I can attest to the unreliable efficacy of some of the medications. Medication is only effective with other treatment like behavioral modification (coping), environmental adaptation, and monitoring. As someone who knew there was something wrong with my son by age 3 (ADHD, ODD) I can attest to the tendency for institutional thinking and applying blame. I am definitely backing this book and rating a 6. Thanks for sharing your journey to the benefit of us all.
Roberta

Marita A. Hansen wrote 753 days ago

I read chapter 1 today, and thought it was very interesting, the little signs that you were picking up about the things that you felt weren't quite right about Chris's behaviour. The tapping of his head, the grandiose attitude, and his stand-offish attitude towards people. I haven't watched that film you mentioned, and didn't realise Nash was schizophrenic. I knew he had mental health issues, but it was interesting to hear about Nash's room-mate being in his imagination. But to a schizophrenic person, whether they are imaginary or not, they are very real to them.

I only noticed one thing that jumped out at me. You have a typo in regards to how late you were with Chris's pregnancy. It says you were 26 days overdue.

That's all for now. I'll have a read of chapter 2 when I get some more time. Off to write. Best wishes, Marita.

Rossa Forbes wrote 763 days ago


Marita - Thank you for your comments. I noticed your book on the top 5 list, but have not had much time to read other authors books of late. So I'm intrigrued to see that the hood is actually a neighbourhood and not a car hood, as I originally surmised. If it is easier, I can send you any chapters you want. I find it frustrating to read books on authonomy. There is only so much staring at a computer screen one can take.
Congratulations of your medal!
...Rossa

I saw your book recommended on the forum, and decided to read it because I've written about a schizophrenic character in my book. The person in chapter 2 and 4 is based on someone that I know, someone that is very important and dear. I'm not reading your book to get anything out of you as I have already got a medal on my book so you don't need to reciprocate. This review is purely because your topic is of interest.

I've just finished the introduction but will definitely be reading on. The mention of weight gain was something that jumped out at me. The person who has schizophrenia, as well as someone else I know who is classed as "Psychotic" (a horrible term), also complained about pills causing weight gain. I don't quite know everything about what the psychotic person experiences, but your mention of visions and voices fitted in with the schizophrenic person (I'd rather not name names). She has spirit guides, people who only she sees and speaks to.

Anyway, your intro was nicely written and I didn't notice anything that I could suggest to change. I'll let you know what I think of the first chapter when I get some more time. Kind regards, Marita.

Rossa Forbes wrote 763 days ago

Hi, Ben,
Thank you for taking the time to read a bit of my book and to send your comments. (Thanks for backing it!) No, I'm not an academic, just a mother who got pushed into something that she never imagined would happen. Interesting comment about the repetition. I am self-conscious about it, not sure if it works or not, so thanks for your feedback. I felt that my added value in writing the book was that I was a mother and most mothers are reluctant to write about their child's so called mental illness. I am also a mother who doesn't buy into the current love affair with pharma. I feel pharma lets parents off the hook of doing the really hard job of understanding and empathy, which leads to healing. Enough about me. I checked you out and see that your wine book will be published soon. Congratulationsl You also have a nice blog musing about the things that make live worth living - food, wine, music. You sound like the kind of person who I would love to have live next door.
Best regards,
Rossa


I have read the introduction and chapter 17. You write extremely well. The introduction is scholarly,

and makes me wonder whether you are an academic. Chapter 17, of course, moves into the memoir - because that is what this book is about. You use repetition effectively (rather than clunkily - a difficult trick to pull off). Even though I have only read two chapters, the book as a whole looks like it will be a convincing argument against the pharma industry and for alternative methods of healing. I am slightly dubious about amazing claims made (not in your book - just in general) on behalf of Alternative Medicine, having read 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre, but I suspect that for mental health issues the alternative model is valid in many cases.

Marita A. Hansen wrote 763 days ago

I saw your book recommended on the forum, and decided to read it because I've written about a schizophrenic character in my book. The person in chapter 2 and 4 is based on someone that I know, someone that is very important and dear. I'm not reading your book to get anything out of you as I have already got a medal on my book so you don't need to reciprocate. This review is purely because your topic is of interest.

I've just finished the introduction but will definitely be reading on. The mention of weight gain was something that jumped out at me. The person who has schizophrenia, as well as someone else I know who is classed as "Psychotic" (a horrible term), also complained about pills causing weight gain. I don't quite know everything about what the psychotic person experiences, but your mention of visions and voices fitted in with the schizophrenic person (I'd rather not name names). She has spirit guides, people who only she sees and speaks to.

Anyway, your intro was nicely written and I didn't notice anything that I could suggest to change. I'll let you know what I think of the first chapter when I get some more time. Kind regards, Marita.

Ben Hardy wrote 763 days ago

I have read the introduction and chapter 17. You write extremely well. The introduction is scholarly, and makes me wonder whether you are an academic. Chapter 17, of course, moves into the memoir - because that is what this book is about. You use repetition effectively (rather than clunkily - a difficult trick to pull off). Even though I have only read two chapters, the book as a whole looks like it will be a convincing argument against the pharma industry and for alternative methods of healing. I am slightly dubious about amazing claims made (not in your book - just in general) on behalf of Alternative Medicine, having read 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre, but I suspect that for mental health issues the alternative model is valid in many cases.

Rossa Forbes wrote 796 days ago

Thank you, Judy, for these really nice words. I've looked at your book, it looks promising, and will put it on my WL for the time being for a better read later. I'm not as active on this site right now as I would hope.
Best regards,
Rossa

J.Adams wrote 798 days ago

It has already been said - this is an important work. Thank you for sharing your and Chris's experiences with schizophrenia and the accepted medical practice vs. the myriad alternatives one can explore. I wish you both well, I hope you will let me know if or when you post the rest of your book, and I hope you find a publisher. Books like this are too important to fall by the wayside. This needs to be out where people who seek alternatives can find it and benefit from your insights.
All the best,
Judy

Rossa Forbes wrote 802 days ago

Balepy - Much appreciated.
Rossa (Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey)

Balepy wrote 802 days ago

Rossa - your book on schizophrenia and various methods of seeking recovery is invaluable. Backed with stars and I shall read more of it. Balepy (Freckles the Fawn)

Balepy wrote 802 days ago

Rossa - your book on schizophrenia and various methods of seeking recovery is invaluable. Backed with stars and I shall read more of it. Balepy (Freckles the Fawn)

Rossa Forbes wrote 807 days ago

That's very interesting aboubt Kraepelin and the Rockefeller Foundation. I did a quick google check and his Institute in Munich received the Rockefeller money two years after Kraepelin died. If you have further information on why Rockefeller was interested in psychiatric research, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks for supporting my book. I revised my profile about an hour ago to reflect what I think is really unique about my memoir.

Cristy DeLange wrote 807 days ago

Excactely that's misspelled but who cares. Prozac and other drugs is an invention of the parmaceutical companies to fill their pockets. It also keeps the psychiatrists aflood, who otherwise will be out of work and in the ditch. I learned during my research that Kraeplin received $ 575,000 for research in Europe from Rockefeller. They owned the petroleum industry and they recently had discovered that by poducts of petroleum could be used to produce medicine.

M. A. McRae. wrote 810 days ago

This is a well-written and an absorbing book, but more importantly, it is a valuable book that points out the failures of pyschiatry - failures that ruin lives.
This is one that I would buy, and study. This is an exceptional book.
Marj.

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