The Celestial Proposal: Dare we join the God-kind?

Dear Jane,

I am so sorry I'm late with your CLF review. I hope you will forgive me! :)

I wasn't exactly sure where I left off on my first read of your work, so I started back at the beginning and read through chapter four. Most profoundly, I was struck by the wonder and creativity in your approach. Your tone carries such a beautiful, inviting acceptance, and I found myself really appreciating your gentle style. Growing up in a rather traditional Christian home, there were some things that just didn't "feel" right, but I see now your target audience, and I have a tremendous respect for your approach. Your words are full of love, and I think many will be touched, especially those who are seeking but skeptical of the truth. I really love the way you ask questions so many people wonder. "Why am I here?" "Who in the world are we?" "What does God look like?" There is such a contagious curiousity in your approach. I love it. I was especially engrossed in the discussion of angels as messengers. Phil. 6:12 is such a powerful reminder of where our battle truly lies as "our struggle is not against flesh and blood..." This is such a vital focus, and it is indeed where I want to keep my eyes fixed on a daily basis. Thank you for reminding me of what is truly important, and for doing it in such a loving way. I am excited to watch your book climb the ranks. I have no doubt there is a ready and hungry audience for this wonderful piece!

All the very best,
Faith Rose
Now To Him

CLF and CCRG Review
The Celestial Proposal – Dare We Join the God Kind

I haven’t heard the Christian message put this way before, but have often thought in similar ways regarding God and his Word. I like how you blend Biblical passages with science and show that the two can co-exist.

Your idea of stripping away all the sanctimonious language and man-made traditional perceptions of religion to leave us God’s celestial forces, is refreshing. You speak of the incompleteness of man, and God allowing us to grow in maturity, by his design.. I like the idea that the enemy provides for us opportunities to grow. If you know prophecies and scriptures, there is no denying that something special happened when Jesus entered the earth with so many stories circulating about his birth, and then him actually growing up and fulfilling the prophecies.

I think this was very well written. One thing that bothered me, was a minor thing, but the font you used was very narrow and difficult for me to read. Maybe this is not a problem for others.

You open up new ways to Bible interpretation and in studying the Word. You have written a very contemplative piece of work. I wish you the best with this.

Kara
A Gate Called Beautiful

CLF and CCRG

Jane: I thought I had read and reviewed your book, but I haven't! Great, that gave me an exciting and thought-provoking new book to read today, and your book is thought-provoking if anything! I love to read materials that challenge my own rather traditional way of thinking and found that I agreed with much that you said. I fought against the traditionalist in me that disliked the title, 'extraterrestial Great Ones,' to plug ahead and see what you meant and found that what you meant was not far from mainstream Christianity but simply another perspective for looking at it.

Some comments you made that really stood out as pretty profound to me incude:

"I write this with boldness and enthusiasm because Jesus Christ and His message were definiely controversial and outside the religious norm in His day, too. If my thesis makes you want to question, debate, and research, then personal growth and wisdom will be happening even if you are not in agreement."

"The good news is that through our faith we are capable of doing the same kind of works as Jesus Christ did."

"Committed to God's love, we have a confidence to face anything in life through the knowledge that we nevr stand alone"

Yes! I completely agree. One disagreement that I have, though, came up when you referred to Christ as half-breed: half God, half man. I understand what you're striving to say, but I would simply change that to Christ, the double whole breed: i.e., fully God and fully man.

As far as your writing goes, I've simply no corrections! You ar a very talented and skilled writer. You use excellent analogies to get your point across (ie. the propeller analogy) and you paint lovely word pictures:

"In my beautiful Canada, I have been most privileged to see the river run so thick with salmon I wanted to walk across that blue-green and red underwater carpet of churning movement." Wow, that is vivid imagery! In fact, several times in your book, I wanted to stop and paint the scene you described.

Not only are you a talented, gifted writer, but you have done your research! I admire the study and work and deep contemplation that you have put into your book. I admire your boldness to tackle a whole new approach to Scripture, and I pray for your continued guidance as you try so hard, as you obviously do, to reach the truth. Best wishes, Jane, for the publication of your lovely work and also for your continued writing -you've many more books in you, I suspect.

Blessings,
Patricia Laster
Free to be Me

Wow - what an extraordinary book! A must-read for deep thinkers and those who feel that because the world is in such a mess that must mean there is no God! The author obviously has a good brain and has thought through some of the more tricky questions with regard to Christianity - and come up with her own conclusions. Then and only then has she found that others agree - even if they have reached their conclusions by a different path.

There was much that I enjoyed and admired in this book. In particular - the challenge to nonbelievers and disillusioned Christians to strip away 'religion' and look for the truth; the description of the real enemy against the inhabitants of the earth which makes the sense of the purpose of life; the existance of the metal blades even though unseen (loved that bit!); and the simple statement 'the bottom line is that God calls whom he wants to call. There is no way to determine the 'why' of it. There was much more besides but these are some examples of what I have enjoyed!

There were some parts with which I could not agree but this, as the author says, is in itself a good thing as it causes us to question and re-evaluate our beliefs.

Well-written, thoughtful and very thought-provoking.

Margaret
How do I know I know God?

Hi Jane;
I've read the first two chapters. The writing is superb and so easy to follow. It most certainly leaves the reader thinking. So many different interpretations"Who is God?" I was fascinated by your simple explanations to complicated passages.
I love the quote 'God is love' . As well, one can not begin to change another until he changes himself.
I have given this the highest stars and will place it on my shelf at the end of the month.
Cheers, MC

This is extraordinary. My favourite line is after you speak of God's appearance "We certainly must be related." :) I also love your take on Revelations 12.7.

"Are we victims or warriors?" That got my brain whirring.

I love the bit about the miracle of birth as well.

You write beautifully and the content is full, although tight and polished. I found it very easy to follow and incredibly interesting.

I'm sorry I took a while to read this, because I have missed out, but home commitments dictated otherwise. I will read more and get back to you again.

Great book, wonderful observations and philosophies. 6 stars!

Your opening is magnificent. I love this kind of thing and my beliefs are similar - spooky!!! I can't wait to get into the story. Top stars!!! Beautifully written too.

Judging from the first chapter I can say that this is a brilliant book. Coming from my perspective as both a physicist and a Christian with an open mind I love to see someone else propose the compatibility of science and religion. Your writing carries with it a positive spirit that filled me as I read your work. I hope to see this go far.

MiriamNConde
The Immortality Experiment

I have read four chapters of this, so far. I really like the way you have approached this from an intellectual perspective. I am certainly seeking answers, and your ideas around the nature of the universe (quantum theory) and how this is reflected in the bible is fascinating. Your arguments are very persuasive in relation to god-like beings, but I cannot ignore evidence of evolution and I am genuinely interested in how you square this evidence against what the Old testament tells us. In my early adult life, I would have said I was an atheist, but in recent years, I have come to realise there is much more to this universe than first appears - I am fascinated by quantum physics and read a lot about it - which is why your ideas really connect with me. Hope to hear from you re: the evolution dilemma - and will continue to read. You've even prompted me to have a proper read of the bible (though that hasn't actually converted into action yet, it is a start). Juliet

Jane, I have only read the first chaper today but my mind is reeling because you include so much for the reader to consider. I was prepared from your pitch to read about Christianity from a different perspective than the one we usually encounter; I do not find this difficult to do as I have experienced Christianity through different denominations and churches. A priest once said to me - 'Maria, you have to belong and identify with a single denomination, you can't just say you are a Christian.'
In chapter 1 you state that 'God is not solely a male entity' and that reminded me of the way God is portrayed in the Shack.
You encourage the reader to think out of the box and not just follow your thoughts, but engage in making their own discovery. There were certain parts that really stood out for me and one of them is when you write; 'I can read the same written passage for years, and then read it one day and suddenly see a totally new depth to it that applies to me in a unique and profound way'. I can certainly identify with that and recall how empowering that feels when God's words become so real and relevant to my life.
There is also humour in your style, such as your interpretation of faith and the mustard seed. The reader is also able to relax because the tone of your writing is non-threatening. You challenge the reader, but do not offend because there is an underlying gentleness and kindness in your approach.

I have starred your book highly today and will continue to read.

Maria (Georgina's Family)
ps your book was on my watchlist, but I missed the CLF review, so apologies for reading, commenting and rating a few weeks later.

The Celestial Proposal CLF Final Review

Hi Jane,

I’m so sorry it has taken me so long to finish reading your book. I know I did myself a disservice by reading the last four chapters in one sitting. There is so much to digest. Your book is very thorough in covering every aspect of the Christian faith. It is chock full of wonderful truths, and I found nearly everything that you wrote very affirming.

Here are a few of my favorite sections:
Chapter four - the part about Mary’s faith and obedience.
Chapter six - consuming Christ within - “taking Him into every corner of our lives”
Chapter seven - I loved the part about the future sacred celebrations. Our pastor just started a series on the feasts and I’m curious if he will teach the parallels between ancient traditions and future fulfillment.

You have done a wonderful job researching and making this writing relatable for the scientifically minded, and still you don’t cut corners when you speak of grace and predestination.

Your writing is easy to follow and understand. The voice is patience and at times very passionate when appropriate to emphasize the amazing wonder of the supernatural realm.

I didn’t read so carefully as to pick out grammar and punctuation errors, but a few little easy fixes did make themselves known. I’ve also included in my notes one or two personal nits. I hope that’s okay.

Jane, I truly did enjoy reading this and was most impressed by your thoroughness and the unique way in which you presented God’s plan of reconciling man to Himself!

Dianna Lanser

Chapter four
A paranormal birth:
The event (of) was announced in a rural country field when a celestial being in the shape (form) of an angel appeared…

Wasn’t the star that shone in the sky a separate phenomenon from the angelic beings? Certainly the star had to remain in the sky for several weeks or months for the wisemen to follow it.

The Great Confrontation:

“He was fully aware(ness) of the dark, destructive forces opposing him…”

Chapter five

Called by God:

“Christ spoke in short analogies so that when (they) understood, these specific passages would point us…”

What is required:

“If one is predestined, called, justified, and glorified, does that mean the individual doesn’t have to do anything themselves?” For a book with such unique language, this sentence unfortunately uses a bit too much christianese.

Dear Jane,

I am so sorry I'm late with your CLF review. I hope you will forgive me! :)

I wasn't exactly sure where I left off on my first read of your work, so I started back at the beginning and read through chapter four. Most profoundly, I was struck by the wonder and creativity in your approach. Your tone carries such a beautiful, inviting acceptance, and I found myself really appreciating your gentle style. Growing up in a rather traditional Christian home, there were some things that just didn't "feel" right, but I see now your target audience, and I have a tremendous respect for your approach. Your words are full of love, and I think many will be touched, especially those who are seeking but skeptical of the truth. I really love the way you ask questions so many people wonder. "Why am I here?" "Who in the world are we?" "What does God look like?" There is such a contagious curiousity in your approach. I love it. I was especially engrossed in the discussion of angels as messengers. Phil. 6:12 is such a powerful reminder of where our battle truly lies as "our struggle is not against flesh and blood..." This is such a vital focus, and it is indeed where I want to keep my eyes fixed on a daily basis. Thank you for reminding me of what is truly important, and for doing it in such a loving way. I am excited to watch your book climb the ranks. I have no doubt there is a ready and hungry audience for this wonderful piece!

All the very best,
Faith Rose
Now To Him

CLF Review of The Celestial Proposal.

Jane, you are a talented writer, with a gift for thinking 'outside of the box'. Your manner of writing is clear and interesting, challenging some traditional Christian beliefs, but certainly presenting many Bible truths in a unique way. I believe your book would attract a broad range of readers, perhaps more outside of the Christian church than in it. You raise some issues that are good for us to consider, and it is profitable to have our beliefs challenged in order that we will search the scriptures more diligently, to prove to ourselves exactly what we do believe.

I particularly enjoyed your portrayal of the work of Satan. I think that many Christians are unaware of the effects of his sneaky strategies, and the Bible clearly tells us "not to be ignorant of Satan's devices." Your story of God's protection at a time of political unrest in Mexico, was very moving.

I think what I enjoyed most about The Celestial Proposal, was the very many beautifully creative descriptions which let us taste the flavors of beautiful words. God bless you in your continuing journey of discovery.

I just want to say, very interesting reading. Well written! great book!
PT

I am glad to have read your first chapter. I like your choice of words, I agree that there is a Creator, the Trinity. I also agree that men can do great works with God's power, healing, loving and sharing.
Your book is a wittness to the public.
May God bless you.
Christine

Hi Lenny,
Thanks for your thoughts on THE CELESTIAL PROPOSAL. I used to have trouble taking the scriptures in the Bible as literal truth too. Maybe the “devout religious leaders” weren’t creating stories at all. Maybe they weren’t church leaders even but ordinary learned men recording stupendous historical events for posterity. When I see them as a collection of historical testaments from a diverse group of writers, laboring down through centuries of time, all seeming to synchronize very well, then the Bible has more weight. The proof for me is this: the extent I put godly celestial principles into place in my own life, the more peace of mind, power and joy I have! The instruction manual then becomes more reliable to me.
We base our worldview today on the facts of history. Of course, any historian can exaggerate on the facts. But then there are 4 gospels and why include four? What if all the miraculous, incredulous events described in the Bible ARE true? Whew! Now that is worth considering in this point in time.

Hi Jane, I took a look at chapter 4, thanks for reviewing my book. I am not sure where to start, I prefer to be honest and hope I do not offend. My problem with your book is a similar one I have to a lot of peoples work ( nothing personal). Good meaning people like yourself take passages from the Bible and discuss or validate your personal 'take' of the text. If your book had some disclaimer that said something like: ' I have based my arguments on texts that were written nearly two thousand years ago by devout religious writers who were creating stories to promote pure positive lifestyles in a foreign country and in some cases in a dead language. The text was later translated in to different languages and undertook editing and creative licence...' I think you get the idea, I am a Christian but I struggle to have faith in The Bible being the verbatum word of any GOD. That said, I think you have done a good job of taking a piece of text and exploring detail with the reader and sharing very good researched insight. I like the flow of the writing and your approach to breaking down the subject. I am sure this book will find an audience as a lot of people have more questions than answers reading any of the religious manuals. I will rate you high for approach to the job, I just hope someone can eventually create a religious argument or case that isn't based on a some what dubious source of factual evidence.
Hope you are not offended
Kindest Regards and Best Wishes
Lenny Banks

Hi Jane, I took a look at chapter 4, thanks for reviewing my book. I am not sure where to start, I prefer to be honest and hope I do not offend. My problem with your book is a similar one I have to a lot of peoples work ( nothing personal). Good meaning people like yourself take passages from the Bible and discuss or validate your personal 'take' of the text. If your book had some disclaimer that said something like: ' I have based my arguments on texts that were written nearly two thousand years ago by devout religious writers who were creating stories to promote pure positive lifestyles in a foreign country and in some cases in a dead language. The text was later translated in to different languages and undertook editing and creative licence...' I think you get the idea, I am a Christian but I struggle to have faith in The Bible being the verbatum word of any GOD. That said, I think you have done a good job of taking a piece of text and exploring detail with the reader and sharing very good researched insight. I like the flow of the writing and your approach to breaking down the subject. I am sure this book will find an audience as a lot of people have more questions than answers reading any of the religious manuals. I will rate you high for approach to the job, I just hope someone can eventually create a religious argument or case that isn't based on a some what dubious source of factual evidence.
Hope you are not offended
Kindest Regards and Best Wishes
Lenny Banks

Dear Jane,

I am in a quandary. I started reading your book and noted several points I thought inaccurate or a case of loose language. For example you refer to the doctrine of the Trinity ("three God-beings" as you call them) in the Bible. In fact this doctrine is not clear in the Bible, but was hammered out in debates in the Church over the next four centuries, and settled by General Councils.
I had almost reached the end of chapter 2 when it hit me: who were you writing for? If it is for New-Age followers and for Christians who have become jaded with contemporary religion, then it is highly unlikely that you would want to bother them with issues like that. So after that I restricted myself to pointing out major factual errors. E.g. Timothy did not write 2Tim; St Paul did.
However having made the remarks below, I had the option of deleting them or letting you see them. In the end I decided to send them to you, but please treat them as observations rather than comments: observations you can take on-board or ignore as you wish, bearing in mind that I made them on the basis of what may have been a complete misunderstanding of your purpose.

Overall I thought it a fresh and lively approach to Christianity. I have rated it and backed. it. But you need to be a bit more rigorous about your choice of terms!

Keiran Proffer

Preface:
1. Did Jesus say he was "half man-half celestial entity, a crossbreed"? Where in the Bible?

Chap 1:
1. "The energy that forms atoms cannot be seen". Unfortunately it can - as atomic bombs prove. Saying matter is only a dense form of energy is not quite true: better to say they can be converted into each other.
2. "Let us assume that there is a 'God'", does not really follow from what you have said. The energy holding atoms together is a created energy. All atheist scientists are aware of this energy but do not call it God. Light also is a created form of energy. When scripture talks of God as Light, it means far more than just physical energy.
You could have based your argument more on the "powers and laws" which govern the universe. Science can give no explanation where the laws of the universe come from. E.g. why does light move at 186,000 miles a second and not some other speed?
3. Read the Bible for myself: good! Take the words quite literally: dubious. How much is parables? Does God creating the sun after plants (Gen 1) make literal sense?
Also how about 2Pet1:20:"First of all, you must understand this: No prophecy in Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation". (However, even that verse has been translated in different ways!) Isaac Newton read the Bible for himself and decided Jesus was not God, along with several other unorthodox and unusual ideas.
4. You read about "three God beings...Father, Son and Spirit". No the Bible does not clearly say the Son and Spirit are God! The early church was torn apart by different views (we call them "heresies") about who and what Jesus was. See any good history of Christianity. In the end Councils had to be called to settle the matter. We still quote their teachings when we recite the Creed. And to make their point they had to use language not in scripture - words like "consubstantial".
5. Yes, God is beyond male and female. Needs to be said.
6. In one paragraph you then seem to jump from God being other-dimensional to extra-terrestrial beings which had to evolve (and therefore were in time).
7. "An Ancient Textbook". You are now basing your faith on the Bible. Perhaps you could say why you are using the Bible as your basis and not the Koran, the Vedas (a lot older than the Bible!) or the sacred books of any other religion. In our multi-faith society we cannot take this for granted.
Also as a Catholic, I must point out that Catholics (who make up the majority of Christians throughout the world) do not take the Bible as the absolute authority. They take the Church as the authority (Christ did not tell his followers to write a book), and the Bible is a part of the Church's message.
8. "I can read the same written passage for years..." Good. We all have that experience: a new vista opens up.
9. Jesus was "christened with supernatural power". The word Christ means "anointed". I think this should be said here. "Jesus was christened" does not make much sense.

Chap 2:
1. Starts with the beauty of creation. Good, but maybe a word about the disease and suffering going on in nature.
2. No, Eve was not created by cloning from Adam or she would have been like Adam's identical twin! The story of Adam's rib is a poetic fancy. (Or actually hides a truth in the form of a parable, according to my published book "Adam, Darwin and Washoe").
Gift of Self Will
3. Self-will and self-consciousness are 2 different things.
Capacity to Love
4. This is a very good section. (Have I said "very good" before?). Still a quibble: agape is as you say benevolent love; completely inadequate to describe God's love, which is pure charity (as you hint). I person with agape for his fellows would help them out of difficulty, but it needs charity to lay down one's life for one's friends.
5. Typo: "wield power" not "weld power". Said twice.

Chap 3:
1. It is highly dubious that the author of Revelations was the apostle John.
2. No, we are not given immortality "after a biological life". We are created as immortal beings. (But here you may be just expressing the change to the eternal realms of heaven or hell.)
3. "We will judge angels"? I find that contradicts most of what we know about angels being more powerful than us. Paul may have been speaking poetically.
4. Timothy did not write the 2 books in the Bible with his name! They were letters written by Paul to him.
5. The result of the Fall was not to be denied immortality: it was much worse. It meant we remained immortal, but were denied heaven.
6. Devils "want us to edify them in our minds"? This does not make sense in British English. "Idolise" or "Worship" would be the British words to use instead of "edify". Maybe different in USA of course.
5. You are being a bit loose with the word "create". Only God can create: men, angels and demons can only make; that is, use existing matter and energy, and just re-arrange it. Above all we cannot create goodness. We can only perform good acts.
6. Last but one paragraph: you could add; would we ever learn pity if we never saw someone suffer. Would we ever learn to give if we never saw anyone in need. God only allows evil so that good can come out of it.

1. Hybrid and cross-breed are not really correct: they mean something in-between two species resulting from mating two different types of animals or plants. It would strictly mean that Jesus was neither God nor man but something between the two. Christians believe that Jesus was fully man and fully God: one person with two natures.
2. A "far advanced and invisible celestial race of Great Ones existing in another dimension" doesn't really describe God! Very loose language. It could fit an advanced created species.
3. Good condemnation of effeminate portrait of Christ.
4. Not sure your parable of the robots works. Why should the scientist have to give up his own life? Your have left out original sin and atonement. Though a bit later you use the word "ransom" which begins to imply them. And later still you get on to the Tree of Life.
5. Typo: After The Great Confrontation the script is brown. Again just before An Inheritance Given.
6. "We gained free choice in the knowledge of good and evil". No, actually we had free choice beforehand, or it would not have been a sin to eat of the fruit. What we gained is debated. My view is that we gained freedom of conscience; i.e. the freedom to choose for ourselves what is right and wrong. But we are commanded to bring these choices into line with the teaching of Christ.
7. "The cross suddenly became the new Tree of Life". Nicely put. An old legend says the cross was made from the wood of the original Tree of Life.

Not many comments on the remaining chapters, except you use the Feasts of the Old (Jewish) Law to predict the final events. Of when and what will happen then, no-one knows. Beware of taking the Book of Revelations too literally: I don’t think I would enjoy living in a cube 1,400 miles long!

CLF and CCRG review

I'm not a very good judge for this because personally there are very few nonfic books like this that I enjoy. I'm easily bored unless there is a story I'm following along with.

So that's a thought. You could add some narrative stories to give examples of the subject at hand.

As far as the mechanics of this, there were 2 things that I wasn't fond of. Now keep in mind this could easily just be my opinions, but I always prefer to have the book and verse before the text, this way I know which bible verse I'm reading from the start.

Another thing I really don't like to see are (...) when using bible verses. This to me, as a Christian writer, is a sign that the bible verse could be taken out of context. I write Christian articles for magazines and I would never use (...) when quoting the bible. If the ENTIRE bible verse doesn't fit with my message then I will find another verse.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, please know that isn't my intent. But I hope you will think about my suggestions.

I do love what you are doing here. And even though I'm not big on this kind of book, anything that glorifies God is a beutiful thing and is to be commended!!! There are all kinds of readers in this world and I'm know there is a huge market for this!

Amber-- Perfectly Broken

This is an amazing body of work that you took the time to present in a thought provoking way. You can't read this without having certain things become clearer. I find myself looking at my place in the game of Life with a different view toward the same goals. Well done...high stars and on my watchlist.

God bless...
Linda
Daniel Simmons Journey
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Children Walking with Jesus

CLF Review -

Chapter three -

Hi Jane,

I’m VERY glad I read this chapter. So far this is my favorite. I’m amazed at all I’m learning and how this knowledge will equip me to fight against the wiles of the devil.

I read a bunch of this to my husband and my eighteen year old son. Both were amazed and as astounded as I was. Incidentally, my son said he likes the way you write -- easy to follow.

I feel the information in this chapter is invaluable for Christians. -- especially the part about Satan and his demons. With understanding our individual missions and gifts will be much more effective against the devils schemes.

There was a ton in here that I liked, but I wanted to highlight the points that stood out to me so others who are reading the comments will be enticed to read your book. Here are the biggies:

1. Lucifer the god of our world now and his demonic cohorts, do exist… You see, if we don’t recognize or accept his existence, then who are we going to blame when things go wrong for us(?) He wants us to blame God, of course… In other words, he has led us with blind subtlety to believe that God is in charge of this world we live in. Then we naturally wonder why God has made a mess of it. That’s a typical example of how Satan works; it’s his mode of operation. “

2. “Even the angels had never been invited to be children of God, but were only created to be ministering spirits. Perhaps this is why Satan and a third of all the other angels rebelled and mutinied; they were irate at the thought that mere mortals would have these opportunities.”

3. “How does Satan influence us so easily? His chief mode of operation is by giving us false messages. Remember, delivering messages is what angels were designed to do. Satan and his angels are in rebellion against God so his lies to us are always dark and negative messages. They selfishly appeal to our wants, desire, and self-pitiy. He uses these subtle messages to turn our own thinking process against us,,,”

4. “The existence of the enemy provides an opportunity for humans to develop a personal spiritual maturity.”

I wanted to add that my husband and I had a similar experience to yours, only we were in South Dakota. We stopped off the highway to camp; it was late at night. We pulled into our site and immediately got a sense of incredible evil surrounding that place. My husband and I both used the restroom and were walking back to our campsite when we noticed two men walking straight to our car. Their intent was obvious. Then just as suddenly, they turned and went the other way. My guess is they saw an “angel” protecting our shelter. To say the least we shook the dust off our feet when we left that place and thanked God for his protection.

Anyway, I love what you are doing with this book and will definitely read more!

One little nit:
There is (a) whole other dimension that coexists with our reality…”

Dianna Lanser
Nothing But The Blood

Jane,

Just a quick note... I'm in the middle of chapter three and am totally blown away and encouraged by what I'm reading!! I'll write more soon, but I just had to say how profound this is. Thank you.

Dianna Lanser
Nothing But The Blood

CLF Review - Chapters 1-2

Jane,

I don’t know where to begin…

First, let me say you are a very talented writer. You are able to effectively communicate truth in an interesting and affirming way, and I found your points to be considerate of a wide spectrum of readers. Not once did I feel like I was reading one more dry expository on Christian living. On the contrary, your stripped down way of looking at the “Great Ones” truly inspired me to embrace my faith in Christ and glory in the power of His Spirit that lives within me.

Like your other readers, I too was struck by many of the things you wrote. A couple of my favorites were the paragraphs concerning faith as a source of power (Chapter one) and in Chapter two I appreciated the paragraph - Designed for power. My family was just discussing this very concept last night. I told my kids God had designed us with a hunger for power and that He would hold us accountable for the way we choose to use it. After that little conversation, one of my kids was humbled and the other felt justice was served. :-)

Also in that paragraph you used the reference to John 10:34, which I‘d never noticed until yesterday. In my reading of John yesterday (which is not a short book!) that verse stood out to me as unique. I’ll quote it here. (Jesus is speaking to the Jews who were gathered for the Feast of Dedication) “Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods?’ ” You also quoted Psalm 82:6: “I said, ‘You are gods, you are all sons of the Most High. But you will die like mere men.” Adding both those verses to the knowledge that followers of Christ are joint heirs with Him, a person should be greatly “empowered” or humbled (lest we forget we are also partners in His suffering…

In that respect, I like your prediction for the 21st century that it will be an “era of man’s inner spiritual exploration and mastery.” It’s so much more positive than my dread inklings.

Anyway, I loved what I read and am eager to read more. I’ll renew my six stars!

Dianna Lanser
Nothing But The Blood

CLF and CCRG review:

Jane,

I had previously read your first 2 chapters so I picked up in ch. 3. Something I found a bit confusing towards the beginning was that you have a number of paragraphs in italics. At first I thought the italics were when you were quoting scripture, but it seemed that there were also italics used when you were speaking. So to be more consistent with that would be helpful to the reader. My other thought is that sometimes you have quotes and sometimes not. I would suggest always using quotes, especially since you have other statements that are your own words but you then have a scripture reference in paranthesis the same as when you're using a direct quote. This could be especially confusing to a non-Christian who wouldn't know what is actually Scripture and what isn't.

Ch. 4 - I agree with Pat as far as stating that Jesus was both fully God and fully man as opposed to half and half.
(typo) - the event of was announced...
"As Jesus grew older, he soon realized that he was different." It's clearly a mystery none of us can understand, but I think Jesus would have somehow known all along that He was God as opposed to what sounds like perhaps some confusion over his being different somehow. You do later say that he was sustained throughout his life by an inner knowledge of who he was. So maybe that first reference to this concept could just be reworded a bit?

Overall, I remain impressed by your knowledge of Scripture and your ability to logically lay out and reason your thoughts and explanations. Nicely done Jane!

All the best!

Patti

CLF Review:

Jane, thank you for this – I too like to be challenged to think outside the box, and this certainly does that. You have put a lot of thought into the book, and it has the capacity to make you stop and think. I am concerned however that you are not playing to your strengths, and that this could put off a lot of potential readers. Let me try to explain.

I personally struggled with your preface/chapter 1, and if I were picking this up in a bookshop to decide whether or not to read it, I’m afraid I would have put it down before I had finished the second paragraph. Not because I disagree with the theology, but just because it didn’t inspire. If I am going to delve further into someone else’s ideas, and give them serious consideration, I need something more to hook me. For me, that came with the first 4 paragraphs of chapter 2 (plus, a little bit at the end of chapter 1: ‘I invite you to go back with me to the beginning…’ which would be good in your pitch/preface). It was here that I really felt the prose start to flow – your beauty as an observer and writer came to the fore; this is material that makes me want to read.

In contrast, I just found chapter 1 dry and uninspiring. It left me thinking that I would have to work hard to see the truths which I’m sure there will be within it, regardless of whether I can believe your framework or not. I was struggling to think who would go on to read this book. I rather feel you will struggle, with that opening to attract readers from either within or without the Christian communion.

So I, personally, would begin with chapter 2. By all means provide a preface; though I would personally couch it in a more questioning, seeking frame, rather than what can come across as ‘here guys, I’ve got it all cracked, and this is The answer’. Build on your strengths, use your writing style, get your readers hooked, and take them with you on that journey of questioning. Nobody wants to be presented with answers to questions they are not even asking yet.

Peter

Jane: I thought I had read and reviewed your book, but I haven't! Great, that gave me an exciting and thought-provoking new book to read today, and your book is thought-provoking if anything! I love to read materials that challenge my own rather traditional way of thinking and found that I agreed with much that you said. I fought against the traditionalist in me that disliked the title, 'extraterrestial Great Ones,' to plug ahead and see what you meant and found that what you meant was not far from mainstream Christianity but simply another perspective for looking at it.

Some comments you made that really stood out as pretty profound to me incude:

"I write this with boldness and enthusiasm because Jesus Christ and His message were definiely controversial and outside the religious norm in His day, too. If my thesis makes you want to question, debate, and research, then personal growth and wisdom will be happening even if you are not in agreement."

"The good news is that through our faith we are capable of doing the same kind of works as Jesus Christ did."

"Committed to God's love, we have a confidence to face anything in life through the knowledge that we nevr stand alone"

Yes! I completely agree. One disagreement that I have, though, came up when you referred to Christ as half-breed: half God, half man. I understand what you're striving to say, but I would simply change that to Christ, the double whole breed: i.e., fully God and fully man.

As far as your writing goes, I've simply no corrections! You ar a very talented and skilled writer. You use excellent analogies to get your point across (ie. the propeller analogy) and you paint lovely word pictures:

"In my beautiful Canada, I have been most privileged to see the river run so thick with salmon I wanted to walk across that blue-green and red underwater carpet of churning movement." Wow, that is vivid imagery! In fact, several times in your book, I wanted to stop and paint the scene you described.

Not only are you a talented, gifted writer, but you have done your research! I admire the study and work and deep contemplation that you have put into your book. I admire your boldness to tackle a whole new approach to Scripture, and I pray for your continued guidance as you try so hard, as you obviously do, to reach the truth. Best wishes, Jane, for the publication of your lovely work and also for your continued writing -you've many more books in you, I suspect.

Blessings,
Patricia Laster
Free to be Me

Hi Patricia,
Thanks for your enthusiasm. Oh how we all love praise. No wonder God desires it too! I’ve debated for months over the use of the word “extraterrestrial” in defining God. It means “outside of our planet” so it could be a correct interpretation, but I think it does offend too many readers. I’ve replaced it with the words “other-worldly” and “celestial”.

Yes, traditional Christianity maintains Jesus Christ as being fully God and fully man. I felt compelled to focus on his hybrid nature, that he was born from egg and sperm of human woman and celestial God. That is the only reason his physical death counted of such value that he could ransom us from Satan, our dark adversary. Most non-Christian or New Age people don’t realize why believe Jesus’ birth was an earthshaking phenomenon: that he really was born as an actual Son of God. So by comparing it to an interspecies union, begotten son of human and celestial God source, viola – he is indeed superhero!

But you’ve made me think that I could qualify Jesus’ fullness in the power of God. I just checked the online Concordance and 1 Timothy 2:4 says “For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men…” I don’t want the reader to think that God and Jesus are one and the same. But to see that they are family (sweet word)! And they want us to join them!

Here’s a fun gift for everyone if you don’t have one: A free fantastic online Concordance where you can type in any word or phrase and find it in your favorite Bible version: http://www.biblegateway.com
Patricia, I urge to keep your faith in your own book, cause both are powerful! Thanks again.

CLF and CCRG

Jane: I thought I had read and reviewed your book, but I haven't! Great, that gave me an exciting and thought-provoking new book to read today, and your book is thought-provoking if anything! I love to read materials that challenge my own rather traditional way of thinking and found that I agreed with much that you said. I fought against the traditionalist in me that disliked the title, 'extraterrestial Great Ones,' to plug ahead and see what you meant and found that what you meant was not far from mainstream Christianity but simply another perspective for looking at it.

Some comments you made that really stood out as pretty profound to me incude:

"I write this with boldness and enthusiasm because Jesus Christ and His message were definiely controversial and outside the religious norm in His day, too. If my thesis makes you want to question, debate, and research, then personal growth and wisdom will be happening even if you are not in agreement."

"The good news is that through our faith we are capable of doing the same kind of works as Jesus Christ did."

"Committed to God's love, we have a confidence to face anything in life through the knowledge that we nevr stand alone"

Yes! I completely agree. One disagreement that I have, though, came up when you referred to Christ as half-breed: half God, half man. I understand what you're striving to say, but I would simply change that to Christ, the double whole breed: i.e., fully God and fully man.

As far as your writing goes, I've simply no corrections! You ar a very talented and skilled writer. You use excellent analogies to get your point across (ie. the propeller analogy) and you paint lovely word pictures:

"In my beautiful Canada, I have been most privileged to see the river run so thick with salmon I wanted to walk across that blue-green and red underwater carpet of churning movement." Wow, that is vivid imagery! In fact, several times in your book, I wanted to stop and paint the scene you described.

Not only are you a talented, gifted writer, but you have done your research! I admire the study and work and deep contemplation that you have put into your book. I admire your boldness to tackle a whole new approach to Scripture, and I pray for your continued guidance as you try so hard, as you obviously do, to reach the truth. Best wishes, Jane, for the publication of your lovely work and also for your continued writing -you've many more books in you, I suspect.

Blessings,
Patricia Laster
Free to be Me

Jane: I thought I had read and reviewed your book, but I haven't! Great, that gave me an exciting and thought-provoking new book to read today, and your book is thought-provoking if anything! I love to read materials that challenge my own rather traditional way of thinking and found that I agreed with much that you said. I fought against the traditionalist in me that disliked the title, 'extraterrestial Great Ones,' to plug ahead and see what you meant and found that what you meant was not far from mainstream Christianity but simply another perspective for looking at it.

Some comments you made that really stood out as pretty profound to me incude:

"I write this with boldness and enthusiasm because Jesus Christ and His message were definiely controversial and outside the religious norm in His day, too. If my thesis makes you want to question, debate, and research, then personal growth and wisdom will be happening even if you are not in agreement."

"The good news is that through our faith we are capable of doing the same kind of works as Jesus Christ did."

"Committed to God's love, we have a confidence to face anything in life through the knowledge that we nevr stand alone"

Yes! I completely agree. One disagreement that I have, though, came up when you referred to Christ as half-breed: half God, half man. I understand what you're striving to say, but I would simply change that to Christ, the double whole breed: i.e., fully God and fully man.

As far as your writing goes, I've simply no corrections! You ar a very talented and skilled writer. You use excellent analogies to get your point across (ie. the propeller analogy) and you paint lovely word pictures:

"In my beautiful Canada, I have been most privileged to see the river run so thick with salmon I wanted to walk across that blue-green and red underwater carpet of churning movement." Wow, that is vivid imagery! In fact, several times in your book, I wanted to stop and paint the scene you described.

Not only are you a talented, gifted writer, but you have done your research! I admire the study and work and deep contemplation that you have put into your book. I admire your boldness to tackle a whole new approach to Scripture, and I pray for your continued guidance as you try so hard, as you obviously do, to reach the truth. Best wishes, Jane, for the publication of your lovely work and also for your continued writing -you've many more books in you, I suspect.

Blessings,
Patricia Laster
Free to be Me

CLF REVIEW:

The Celestial Proposal is one of the books that I was first captivated by on this site. If I am not mistaken, it was one of the books I first backed and kept on my shelf for a little while.

Without making a theological assessment of the book, I must say that I am indeed fascinated by the depth of its message and the evident profundity of the author. It’s a ‘’solid” book, which happens to be closely kindred to mine. The premise is very strong and the voice compelling. The prose is quite good and the pitch is effective, although the elements could be rearranged to further strengthen it. The book is very relevant and I would really like to read the entire “proposal”.

There are, however, some subtle grammatical and linguistic issues that need to be fixed. Of course, such things would be attended to when the book finally finds a home, but it might help to do some polishing on it now. I am no language expert, but let’s take this sentence in the introduction for an example: “But I was idealistic and independent enough to strip away all the religious terminology and what was left were only amazing logical conclusions in black-and-white clarity from the ancient writings in the Bible.” A close examination reveals that the message of the sentence is not precise, or at least not clearly presented. The preceding sentences do not help, considering that they allude to the author finding her answers in the Bible without exactly stating so. Although the immediate sentence does that, it is a bit too late and it does so in the course of adding another element of the author's message, clouding the latter in the process. The problem is compounded by the undertone of repetitiveness. Also using plural “were” and “only” in such close proximity creates a conflict in the mind of the reader. In a nutshell, the whole paragraph should be restructured so that the elements are gradually and logically built on each other to improve the flow and assist comprehension. If you would like to have my take on how it could be revised, you could message me the paragraph, since I can’t copy it from the site.

All said, Catherine, I really admire your effort with this work and the fortitude that you have demonstrated with it. May the whole purpose of our Lord for it be accomplished. Thanks and grace be with you.

I have your book on wl, but thought I would give it a quick read before logging off. Glad I did. This is a deep book, obviously tendered through much insight and wisdom. I will be returning for a deeper read soon. I like your perspective and your presentation of knowledge.

"Faith is a source of power"........yep, what more can I say there?

"Christ wants us to rise up out of human degradation and overcome the dark hopelessness to which we have become enslaved"...................Couldn't agree more

I find your approach of shedding the weight of organized religion back to the simplicity of Jesus' call of salvation is of great value today. Today's modern institution of Christianity often markets Christ rather than worship Him. He is the source of the Spirit within us, but the sheild of faith has been replaced with stupor. More often than not overcomplication tends to rule the day. So much confusion exists its hard to tell whats true or not. I commed you for stepping forward with your insight. I look forward to reading more.

Chad
Convoluted Christianity

CLF and CCRG Review
The Celestial Proposal – Dare We Join the God Kind

I haven’t heard the Christian message put this way before, but have often thought in similar ways regarding God and his Word. I like how you blend Biblical passages with science and show that the two can co-exist.

Your idea of stripping away all the sanctimonious language and man-made traditional perceptions of religion to leave us God’s celestial forces, is refreshing. You speak of the incompleteness of man, and God allowing us to grow in maturity, by his design.. I like the idea that the enemy provides for us opportunities to grow. If you know prophecies and scriptures, there is no denying that something special happened when Jesus entered the earth with so many stories circulating about his birth, and then him actually growing up and fulfilling the prophecies.

I think this was very well written. One thing that bothered me, was a minor thing, but the font you used was very narrow and difficult for me to read. Maybe this is not a problem for others.

You open up new ways to Bible interpretation and in studying the Word. You have written a very contemplative piece of work. I wish you the best with this.

Kara
A Gate Called Beautiful

Jane,

I just read the first 2 chapters of your very interesting and well-written book. You clearly have much wisdom and have done a great deal of research. Your explanations are clear, well thought-out and backed up by scripture or everyday life experiences to which all can relate. You've taken very difficult concepts and explained them in a way that is easily understood.

High stars and I wish you all the best!

Many blessings!

Patti

A perfect topic! Good versus evil :) Everything that exists in this world seems to be a battle between the polar extremes. Very interesting.


http://www.authonomy.com/books/46991/brierly-ridge-a-prisoner-of-my-bipolar-mind/read-book/#chapter

Hooray—I’m finally here for a read. I keep a running list of all the books I need to read in Excel. It’s been a great taskmaster. The only thing it doesn’t do is help me read faster.

I am at a bit of a disadvantage when I read Christian non-fiction because I haven’t read much published Christian non-fiction aside from a whole bunch of Philip Yancey books.

From you pitch, I get the feeling I’ll be reading something a little outside my comfort zone. A race of god-beings? Hmmm…I confess that I’m wondering if this is going to be a little ‘out there. You preface does little to convince me otherwise. And then Chapter 1 begins with an extremely sensible analysis of ‘pulsing matter,’ and how that could very well be the presence of God—which is much easier to accept and certainly helps me open my mind to your thesis.

The final paragraph, before An Ancient Textbook, is wonderful. I think it would make a dandy long pitch.

All of Chapter 1, in fact, has me excited to read on and learn more. Everything you offer to me in this chapter, from a better understanding of the meaning of ‘faith’ to the spiritual meaning of God invites me to continue. Chapter 1 rocks!

Your first paragraph in Chapter 2 suggests that life begins with the first breath. Is that what you intended to do? I think you can word this to be crystal clear about your meaning.

Overall, Chapter 2 is as interesting and challenging as Chapter 1.

Your writing is technically very clean and polished. One rare nit:
“I found the answers were so bizarre…” Strive to avoid using very, many, and so. But if you must use so, then there has to be a comparison…. “…so bizarre as to frighten me off my chair.”

I agree with the many commenters who noted that your style is friendly and accessible. Not once did I feel as if you were preaching. Instead I felt I was listening to a friend sharing some rather great news.

Here’s another place where my lack of non-fiction reading is an issue. We write fiction to entertain, perhaps to explore a common theme. But what is the purpose of non-fiction? Is it to inform or to persuade…or something else entirely? I got a sense that your book is meant to inform (after reading 2 chapters). I don’t know what your book should do and I’ve read too little to know what it does do. But I hope that you can answer both of these questions satisfactorily to yourself.

An enjoyable and worthwhile read.

Best of luck to you here on Authonomy!
~AudreyB
Forgiveness Fits

Great insight and a pleasure to read.
Six stars

CELESTIAL PROPOSAL
This is a thought producing book. I like the way you’ve written it in a conversational rather than a lecture type style. Makes it very easy and enjoyable to read. The way you insert Biblical quotations gives it credibility. I think you’ll find a wide audience for this among people who are open minded and want to take a new look at religion as well as people who will read it to be certain you must be wrong (those people will be surprised to realize what they thought was fact may not be fact at all). A good read; Highly rated and added to my shelf. Wanttobeawriter: Who Killed the President?

Dear Jane,
I admire your ability to read between the lines of man's words, and define God's message for those of us who have trouble understanding organized religion. A true gift, in my humble opinion.
Perhaps you're one of God's messengers, to bring the "good news" from a different perspective. Brilliantly written and very enjoyable.
Thanks for sharing.
Maria

Wow - what an extraordinary book! A must-read for deep thinkers and those who feel that because the world is in such a mess that must mean there is no God! The author obviously has a good brain and has thought through some of the more tricky questions with regard to Christianity - and come up with her own conclusions. Then and only then has she found that others agree - even if they have reached their conclusions by a different path.

There was much that I enjoyed and admired in this book. In particular - the challenge to nonbelievers and disillusioned Christians to strip away 'religion' and look for the truth; the description of the real enemy against the inhabitants of the earth which makes the sense of the purpose of life; the existance of the metal blades even though unseen (loved that bit!); and the simple statement 'the bottom line is that God calls whom he wants to call. There is no way to determine the 'why' of it. There was much more besides but these are some examples of what I have enjoyed!

There were some parts with which I could not agree but this, as the author says, is in itself a good thing as it causes us to question and re-evaluate our beliefs.

Well-written, thoughtful and very thought-provoking.

Margaret
How do I know I know God?

Hi Jane,
Wow this is a book. I'm not great at critiquing but couldn't find any faults. I didn't know what to expect as I never really read Christian books, but with it being Easter weekend I thought I would give it at go.
You have so much research and have crafted many careful arguments, everything you say is powerfully backed up.
I was interested in particular in how you decribed God and I like that a lot. It helps me to picture God more clearly. When you argue that he may be sexless, it cheers me up greatly. I will think of God from now on as being man and woman, that picture will help me a lot in life.
Jesus was described in chapter two as radiating almost luminous light all the while he was still in human from.
The idea of a war in heaven is not something I knew much about, but it had helped me come to terms with trying to justify all the evils in the world.
It makes sense that this war has spilled onto earth, therefore some of the awful events we see daily are an extension of this.
I have a lot more to read but so far have found this intelligent, coherent and extremely educational. The Celestial Prophies is a resource that would benefit all Christians regardless of their denomination.

Jayne (highly starred)

Hi Jane,
Wow this is a book. I'm not great at critiquing but couldn't find any faults. I didn't know what to expect as I never really read Christian books, but with it being Easter weekend I thought I would give it at go.
You have so much research and have crafted many careful arguments, everything you say is powerfully backed up.
I was interested in particular in how you decribed God and I like that a lot. It helps me to picture God more clearly. When you argue that he may be sexless, it cheers me up greatly. I will think of God from now on as being man and woman, that picture will help me a lot in life.
Jesus was described in chapter two as radiating almost luminous light all the while he was still in human from.
The idea of a war in heaven is not something I knew much about, but it had helped me come to terms with trying to justify all the evils in the world.
It makes sense that this war has spilled onto earth, therefore some of the awful events we see daily are an extension of this.
I have a lot more to read but so far have found this intelligent, coherent and extremely educational. The Celestial Prophies is a resource that would benefit all Christians regardless of their denomination.

Jayne (highly starred)

Well written with a clear and refreshing view to the basics of Christianity. For those raised in this faith, it's a great reminder of who we serve and why we are designed as we are....in His image. For those who have not been raised in Judeo/Christian beliefs, this book does a great job at explaining who we are...our real purpose. It's so easy to be distracted by the needs of life and forget that we are only here for a short time. The sooner we understand our real purpose the better we can spend our time advancing the things we are created for. I've been taught, and have received these truths already and am right in line with the authors positions. I think the way this is presented is very positive and welcoming to any reader. Good job! There are many ways to present the Gospel. I applaud Miss Rozek for her inspirational and stimulating expression of God's Word and how it is as fresh today as it ever was. The Spirit, maybe the most misunderstood Person of the Trinity, but she brings understanding in a simple and compelling way.
Thank you, Jane! MAX stars and a place on my shelf at the next turnover. :o)

There is a spice in your writing style that I envy. A fresh look at an old truth wrapped in a seeker sensitive package guaranteed to pull people off the fence out of apathy!! Great work.

I admire the way you took the Bible in hand and read it for yourself. This is a well written and easy to understand interpretation of the Bible. Highly starred and watchlisted! Georgia
The Woman From E.A.R.L.

I read two chapters. Tjhe writing is good, although I do not share your beliefs because of its reliance on ancient text written by primative nomad people who lived in huts. To believe the ancient texts, you have to believe that the Chinese spoke Hebrew before the Tower of Babel. Too, if God is the ruler of all things, how can we have another evil god who fights him? This other god could only get away with what God let's him do. Of course, there will be a lot of people who will eat this up like chocolate kisses. The writing is also in style of these type books, which is important for the new believers, As for truth, olease remember that truth, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
Good luck with this. You may have a good seller.

Hi Jane, I love your title! Your writing is clear and well organised, and the contemporary language will appeal to many New Age people and non-believers, while actually presenting biblical truth. Well done.
Having had a very real relationship with God from the age of 5, I can certainly attest to the Love, Power and Presence of 'the Great Ones' in my life, and the awesome power of faith.

this piece is well written and thought-provoking. though some say the Bible is irrelevant today, i disagree and think there is nothing better to get our heads around...backed with pleasure...
j
what every woman should know

Dear Jane,

This is my second visit to a very well-written piece! Thank you for inviting me to take another look at your book.

There are some powerful lines, which I loved reading and once again stimulated deep thought:
"Are we victims or are we warriors?"
"Truth stands still and simply waits."
"(the Bible) comes alive when you believe someone is trying to communicate directly with you"
"blow the dust off our Bibles"

I love how you draw attention to the scripture and challenge us to read it for ourselves. For those of us raised with traditional Christian values, it is important to keep our walk with God fresh and relevant.

Although I am not a theologian (and I haven't read your entire piece), there are some ideas that remain slightly difficult for me to fully embrace. I did notice that we share 'The Shack' as one of our favorite books, and your piece does explore similarly relevant themes and ideas of God. Seeing the success of that book, (although a work of fiction), I'm sure there is a market for your well-written book. I wish you every success with this piece.

All the very best,
Faith Rose
Now To Him

Jane,

Your contemporary, quasi-scientific dissection of the creation and the creator gave me a new perspective or paradigm, as it were, to look through. When you told me to think outside the box, I thought I could do that because you explored your beliefs outside of church doctrines and then came back even more thoroughly convinced of your faith. How wise of you.

I loved the illustration of the invisible propeller. We know it‘s there because we can feel and hear its power - just like God.

And your perspective on faith is so encouraging and absolutely true. How do I get more faith!

Chapter one is straight-forward and relevant -- especially since you address people of every station in their faith or non-faith walk. Your writing is really friendly.

Chapter two - Your descriptions of creation and how we fail so miserably to mimick it was really moving to me.

I found it very affirming that we all possess attributes of our creator. It makes sense why we do the good things we do.

And time as a process makes sense - because of our free-will it does take time to learn to love.

Jane, I am really impressed with what you have to say. Although the premise is ancient, your viewpoint is so modern and very relevant. Six stars.

Dianna Lanser
Nothing But The Blood

A very good read and well written. I like the propeller analogy. Good luck with this - Ian

Thanks David, you've got my support too for your very interesting and intriguing book! I'll read more chapters and hope we can keep in contact. I'm curious as to how you are going to tie in your faith to your fiction because I bet you do.

Excellent words of wisdom from above through you. I have read several spiritual books and this is one of the more thought provoking and more simplified ones I've ever come across. Most Christians use the phase from the song, I'm a soldier, in the Army of the Lord. Iv'e always considered myself a Warrior and I was surprised when you made reference to that. My sister is a jehovah Witness and I plan to refer this book to her. I think this will be effective in helping her to understand about the trinity. Headed straight to my shelf. GREAT JOB. Or shall I say WELL DONE! ^6 Stars

Jane,
You are a very good writer. Even though I don't agree with some of your theology, I still found your book to be engaging and thought-provoking. Rather than overwhelming the reader, you take the reader by the hand and guide he or she into a different perspective on life and eternal purpose. Your book is very readable and flows smoothly, making the supernatural journey you take us on seem quite natural and assessable.

Your book is deserving of many stars...

I just read through the first three chapters and I have to say, this is an incredibly well written book. It is thought provoking, interesting and very convincing. I can’t say I agree with all the ideas you have brought up, however I do like one idea very much. Everyone should read the bible for what it is, not for what a particular religion says it should be.

Anyway I enjoyed your book and will be back for more. I do not possess the knowledge to engage in a theological debate, but I can say that all in all, this is a well researched, intelligent, and very engaging read. Thanks for the opportunity to experience it.

To my readers: After months away on a "walk about,” I'm back with the first 5 chapters professionally edited once again! With your great suggestions, I think the manuscript flows even more smoothly. Chapter one is streamlined and now only builds on the momentum. I hope to hear from all of you and new readers checking it out. Jane